Friday, December 23, 2016

Donald Trump is Grabbing America by the Pussy

Comments on Facebook from the sharing of the article The “Apprentice” Producer Just Admitted Trump Is One Huge Scam We Fell For

Sylvie Imelda Shene December 21 at 7:53pmI didn't fall for the scam of Donald Trump, but it's sad beyond words to have close friends that fell for it.

Anja Gustafsson I'm sorry. It must feel very sad and frustrating!

Sylvie Imelda Shene Yes, it feels very sad and frustrating that this person I have been closed friends with for the last five years, still chooses to keep his eyes closed and doesn't want to see, because is too painful to face his own personal truth and rather go on living the facade and unconsciously with his vote doesn't realize that is supporting and electing into power to the highest office of the land oppressors like the ones of my childhood and the ones at my job of nine and half years that were hoping with their lies and mind games to see me dead, in a mental hospital or jail. 

He is living proof of these words Alice Miller wrote in her book For Your Own Good: Hidden Cruelty in child-rearing and the Roosts of Violence page 42 and 43 "Just as in the symbiosis of the "diaper stage," there is no separation here of subject and object. If the child learns to view corporal punishment as "a necessary measure" against "wrongdoers," then as an adult he will attempt to protect himself from punishment by being obedient and will not hesitate to cooperate with the penal system. In a totalitarian state, which is a mirror of his upbringing, this citizen can also carry out any form of torture or persecution without having a guilty conscience. His "will" is completely identical with that of the government.

Now that we have seen how easy it is for intellectuals in a dictatorship to be corrupted, it would be a vestige of aristocratic snobbery to think that only "the uneducated masses" are susceptible to propaganda. Both Hitler and Stalin had a surprisingly large number of enthusiastic followers among intellectuals. Our capacity to resist has nothing to do with our intelligence but with the degree of access to our true self. Indeed, intelligence is capable of innumerable rationalizations when it comes to the matter of adaptation. Educators have always known this and have exploited it for their own purposes, as the following proverb suggests: "The clever person gives in, the stupid one balks." For example, we read in a work on child raising by Grünwald (1899): "I have never yet found willfulness in an intellectually advanced or exceptionally gifted child" (quoted in Rutschky). Such a child can, in later life, exhibit extraordinary acuity in criticizing the ideologies of his opponents--and in puberty even the views by his own parents-- because in these cases his intellectual powers can function without impairment. Only within a group--such as one consisting of adherents of an ideology or a theoretical school--that represents the early family situation will this person on occasion still display a naïve submissiveness and uncritical attitude that completely belie his brilliance in other situations. Here, tragically, his early dependence upon tyrannical parents is preserved, a dependence that--in keeping with the program of "poisonous pedagogy"--goes undetected. This explains why Martin Heidegger, for example, who had no trouble in breaking with traditional philosophy and leaving behind the teachers of his adolescence, was not able to see the contradictions in Hitler's ideology that should have been obvious to someone of his intelligence. He responded to this ideology with an infantile fascination and devotion that brooked no criticism.”

Shannon Heimburg Do they actually know they were scammed?

Sylvie Imelda Shene They don't want to know, even with the facts in front of them, they choose to put the blinds on and don't care who gets hurt and what happens to others, as long they can keep living in their own little bubbles and go on with their illusions as usual, that's what being conservative is! In one word Selfish.

Sally DiNovo ·No. Shannon they don't. They make excuses for everything he does and keep saying, he's not even in power yet, give him a chance. A chance to ruin our Country? Or perhaps a chance to renege on every promise he made. He's not going to "lock her up", he's not going to "drain the swamp", he's taking a closer look at climate change, he might not do anything about Obamacare. Now, the media is saying he might be more left than we thought. I certainly don't see that with those he chose for his Cabinet, but if he is then the jokes on all those who voted for him.

Sylvie Imelda Shene Yes, they come up with all kind of excuses for everything he does and says. I remember telling my friend over coffee how offended I was about Trump saying he grabs women by the pussy and his excuse was that he said that a long time ago! Like time alone would change a narcissist/sociopath! 

The more intelligent, talented and smart a person is, the more clever and elaborated rationalizations they come up with to justify it all, Just like Alice Miller says: "Our capacity to resist has nothing to do with our intelligence but with the degree of access to our true self. Indeed, intelligence is capable of innumerable rationalizations when it comes to the matter of adaptation." Read more here

Shannon Heimburg I don't know any Republicans. I just encountered one on Facebook the other day. Now I know they're racist and sexist, so you're not going to get anywhere with that. So I asked them what they think about Rex Tillerson and his ties with oil and Russia. One guy said "I'm a soldier that hates war." I asked him what that meant. No reply. He also said something about owning guns. I said no one is trying to take your guns away. Then he said that, yes, they are trying to take away people's guns but that I had been brainwashed by the liberal media to not believe it. Uh, maybe because there's no evidence? Then he said that I had misunderstood him, because HE never said anything about buying Russian oil. What? So I girl-splained to him that I was talking about the fact that Rex Tillerson wanted to extract oil in Russia as the CEO of Exxon but that US sanctions against Russia had prevented him from doing it, and now Trump has appointed Tillerson SOS and is looking into lifting the sanctions against Russia. No response.

Shannon Heimburg If I'm going to base my judgment on this one guy, I'd say they don't know anything that's going on.

Sally DiNovo · You are right. They are all the same.



1) It’s not curable and it’s barely treatable.

He is who he is. There is no getting better, or learning, or adapting. He’s not going to “rise to the occasion” for more than maybe a couple hours. So just put that out of your mind.

2) He will say whatever feels most comfortable or good to him at any given time.

He will lie a lot, and say totally different things to different people. Stop being surprised by this. While it’s important to pretend “good faith” and remind him of promises, as Bernie Sanders and others are doing, that’s for his supporters, so *they* can see the inconsistency as it comes. He won’t care. So if you’re trying to reconcile or analyze his words, don’t. It’s 100% not worth your time. Only pay attention to and address his actions.

3) You can influence him by making him feel good

There are already people like Bannon who appear ready to use him for their own ends. The GOP is excited to try. Watch them, not him. President Obama, in his wisdom, may be treating him well in hopes of influencing him and averting the worst. If he gets enough accolades for better behavior, he might continue to try it. But don’t count on it.

4) Entitlement is a key aspect of the disorder.

As we are already seeing, he will likely not observe traditional boundaries of the office. He has already stated that rules don’t apply to him. This particular attribute has huge implications for the presidency and it will be important for everyone who can to hold him to the same standards as previous presidents.

5) We should expect that he only cares about himself and those he views as extensions of himself, like his children.

People with NPD often can’t understand others as fully human or distinct. He desires accumulation of wealth and power because it fills a hole. He will have no qualms *at all* about stealing everything he can and he’ll be happy to help others do so, if they make him feel good. He won’t view it as stealing but rather as something he’s entitled to do. This is likely the only thing he will intentionally accomplish.

6) It’s very, very confusing for non-disordered people to experience a disordered person with NPD.

While often intelligent, charismatic and charming, they do not reliably observe social conventions or demonstrate basic human empathy. It’s very common for non-disordered people to lower their own expectations and try to normalize the behavior. DO NOT DO THIS AND DO NOT ALLOW OTHERS, ESPECIALLY THE MEDIA, TO DO THIS. If you start to feel foggy or unclear about this, step away until you recalibrate.

7) People with NPD often recruit helpers, referred to in the literature as “enablers”

Called "enablers" when they allow or cover for bad behavior. “Flying monkeys” when they perpetrate bad behavior on behalf of the narcissist. Although it’s easiest to prey on malicious people, good and vulnerable people can be unwittingly recruited. It will be important to support good people around him if and when they attempt to stay clear or break away.

8) People with NPD often foster competition for sport in people they control.

Expect lots of chaos, firings and recriminations. He will probably behave worst toward those closest to him, but that doesn’t mean (obviously) that his actions won’t have consequences for the rest of us. He will punish enemies. He may start out, as he has with the NYT, with a confusing combination of punishing/rewarding, which is a classic abuse tactic for control. If you see your media cooperating or facilitating this behavior for rewards, call them on it.

9) Gaslighting is real and torturous.

Gaslighting : where someone tries to convince you that the reality you’ve experienced isn’t true . He will gaslight, his followers will gaslight. Many of our politicians and media figures already gaslight, so it will be hard to distinguish his amplified version from what has already been normalized. Learn the signs and find ways to stay focused on what you know to be true. Note: it is typically not helpful to argue with people who are attempting to gaslight. You will only confuse yourself. Just walk away.

10) Whenever possible, do not focus on the narcissist or give him attention.

Unfortunately, we can’t and shouldn’t ignore the president, but don’t circulate his tweets or laugh at him — you are enabling him and getting his word out. Pay attention to your own emotions: do you sort of enjoy his clowning? do you enjoy the outrage? is this kind of fun and dramatic, in a sick way? You are adding to his energy. Focus on what you can change and how you can resist, where you are.
"We are all called to be leaders now, in the absence of leadership."
Please read the full article and the comment here

If you like to read more about my experience with a mob of sociopaths also read my blog post Experienced Knowledge  


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