Wednesday, November 29, 2017

Amazon Deleted Some of my Book Reviews

I decided to publish here the book reviews Amazon deleted from their site. 

Maybe they thought the reviews were not authentic. But, they are authentic, the authors wanted to remain anonymous and they were published under an alias. I will publish here the original reviews the authors share with me by e-mail or text messages:

On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 3:50 AM, J H  <h.h@gmx.de> wrote:

Sylvie, I have kind of a Christmas- present for youif you find it likable: I wrote a rescension (down below) for your book and were motivated to upload it on the Amazon- site, but when I got an account there, I found out, that I have to buy something first, but I won't do this...unfortunately, I haven't someone around me right now, who I want to convince to publish it instead of me...

so, if you find the recension at least a little appropriate to your work, feel free to publish it anonymously on your website and/ or find someone, with Amazon- account who is ready to publish it there...get on with this text, however you feel like.


take good care of yourself- I wish you a good life and real support!
J


Recenscion:

A Roadmap to Emotional Autonomy By J. H. “100% recommendation! If you really want to reach emotional autonomy, this is a must-read!

It is the first book, I know, where you can see the revolutionary insights of the famous author Alice Miller in action.

Sylvie Shene’s book gives a strong proof, that it is true, that we unconsciously repeat the way we were treated in (early) childhood throughout our lives since we get conscious about the neglect and the wounds we have suffered from as children.

The influence coming from childhood is shown in many studies like “ACE” study of Kaiser Permanente, the work of Lloyd de Mause etc. and cannot be underestimated if we look at any matter of life on this planet- neither the personal tragedy of one person or society issues, environmental or other concerns of global dimensions…As Alice Miller puts it: “The roots of violence are not unknown”.

Reading this book means to follow Sylvie Shene’s truly amazing journey from a childhood in a dysfunctional family, with breathtaking and heartbreaking scenes of emotional and many other ways of abuse, her long struggle to bring some space between her and her family by finally moving to USA, and her unswerving to work through it, since she finally could break from the spells of the neglected child within…

Honestly, sometimes I thought, this is more than what fits in one person’s lifetime or what one single person can cope with, but Sylvie Shene did. The fact, she knew the work of Alice Miller was her exit out of emotional dependency and its bad effects on her life. And she shares this journey with us.

What is even more amazing and special about her book: She offers everybody a kind of a roadmap with helpful paths to find one’s own way to break free from emotional prisons: It is in between the chapters of her book where you find worksheets or let’s call it “questionnaires” with questions leading very deep to one’s soul, if asked honestly. It can help us to unveil the layers of unconscious neglect, addictions, and self- betrayals and so on…

What Sylvie Shene writes about her life “after” freeing herself, gives hope and an example, how to connect with children more respectful, and how we can really live a life as a mature conscious adult, free from emotional addictions…

I hope many people will work with this questionnaire because I think, this world can get to a better place. And this is, what we desperately need- imho”
The reviewer below found my book on Facebook. Click on the link below to see screenshots of his text messages to verify the review below deleted by Amazon is authentic.

She invites you to walk along with her! By E. D. “Sylvie has a remarkable way of sharing her own story while encouraging you as the reader to reflect and think through your own journey. Although being a psychologist for many years, I learned a great deal about life and about myself by walking through “her dance” while focusing on my own issues from my past. Sylvie writes with clarity and challenges her reader to walk along with her and to explore their own lives and recurring “tapes”. I highly recommend this to anyone looking to “grow” emotionally and spiritually!”






On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 1:22 PM, JW < j@jw.com > wrote:

It really is a compelling story and needs to be heard By Lela “I read your book – nothing but respect and admiration for you!! I can’t imagine why anyone would feel differently.
It really is a compelling story and needs to be heard”

Read more enlightening reviews HERE

Thursday, November 23, 2017

From Harvey Weinstein To Charlie Rose, Are Daily Sexual Misconduct Revelations The New Normal?


"Almost every day since sexual assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein were published, another woman has come forward with accusations about awful things that were said or done to them by men in positions of power. The latest high-profile case is that of Charlie Rose, who was fired from CBS News, and his contract with PBS was terminated after the Washington Post reported eight women who either worked with or wanted to work with Rose accused him of sexual assault and harassment." 
Read more HERE

Will the women of Portugal and the media there find the Courage also to Report the prestigious Dr. Julio Machado Vaz Sexual Abuse? I'm sure without a doubt I'm not the only woman he sexually abused. Read more HERE




"A former producer for veteran journalist Charlie Rose's canceled PBS show says that racism and sexism were "inherent" to the behind-the-scenes atmosphere at the show.

Producer Rebecca Carroll, who now works at Shonda Rhimes' production company ShondaLand, tweeted Wednesday evening that Rose would regularly belittle her and that she was punished for speaking out about "casual racism" at the show.

"As a young black woman starting out as a producer for the prestigious Charlie Rose show, I had to gauge every day whether to respond to casual racism or sexually predatory behavior," Carroll tweeted.

"I spoke out about racialized or micro-aggressive racism and was punished for it. The predatory behavior was ignored or accepted or laughed off -- it was inherent to our daily culture," she continued." Read more HERE


Me too I was punished at my job of nine and half years for writing a book about the effects of childhood repression in our society. Speaking the truth and exposing the lies of malignant narcissists or sociopaths can be very dangerous.

This is why it's so hard to get the mainstream media to pay attention to my story because mainstream media is run by malignant narcissists or sociopaths. Also, this is why I was the target of a mob of sociopaths at my job of nine of half years -- after I published my book -- because my book removes the pretty masks people wear and triggers their fears of exposure.  They rather destroy others than look in the mirror and face themselves.

 
Hi E,


Thank you for editing for me the letter to the local news producer.
I have not heard, yet from Mark Rodman. The silence from the media is deafening, they are so afraid of the truth of connected stories and are all about protecting the status quo.
Yes, people can be very weird, especially in the media. These words by Alice Miller are so true: “… Rather than take the risk, they prefer to forgo information that might be of life-death importance for coming generations. So in order not to have to call their own parents into question for a single moment, they cling to outdated, destructive opinions. …Clearly, the prospect of confronting one’s own personal history, in this case, is an alarming experience. And, as always, the fear of facts is stilled by a fascination with intellectual terms and abstractions aimed at concealing and masking the truth—the truth of facts that appear so threatening… At every attempt to share the new discoveries I made with the public, I ran up against the most determined resistance on the part of the media. It is true I can go on publishing these discoveries in my books because my publishers are already aware of the growing interest in this topic. But there are other people who have important things to say, and they are dependent on the press. They and their readers rely on essential information not being torpedoed. All too often, however, the media buttress the wall of silence against which all those who have begun to confront their own childhood rebound.”
I have to figure out a way of how to break through the media’s very thick wall of silence. It seems the media only pays attention when there is violence and spilled blood, in our society most people feed on violence and are like vultures looking for dead bodies, especially those in the media. The media only pays attention to violence for pure sensationalism and ratings. It seems violence is the only language they understand and pay attention to, so it going to be hard to penetrate through the media’s wall of silence.
Also read the Open Letter to the Media of June 27, 2015
I got the response below from the producer:

“Dear Sylvie,
I apologize for the delayed to your letter. While we appreciate the offer to tell your story, as a matter of editorial policy we do not cover individual employment disputes.
Thanks for thinking of us. I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.
Sincerely,
Mark Rodman”
Below is my response to the producer’s dismissal letter:
Dear Mark,
Thank you for replying to my letter, but I don’t think you understood what I was asking you for.
I’m not looking for coverage to get back at a particular company for firing me unjustly—my message goes way beyond that.
My goal is to raise awareness of the dangers unresolved childhood trauma inflicts on our whole society. The sooner people understand that if they work through their deep repression—and the resulting compulsion to repeat the damage that was done to them by hurting others—the less likely we’ll have to live and work with sociopaths. Our world will be less consumed by the awful things that make news every day, from celebrity sexual harassment charges and ideological fighting to terrorist attacks and nuclear threats from the world’s dictators.
Alice Miller was a courageous thinker who understood what it takes to heal humanity. Her teachings healed me, and my goal is to spread her message to as many people courageous enough to listen.
Maybe what I have to offer isn’t a hard news story, but I’m hoping you can help me find an appropriate lifestyle platform at your station. Or perhaps you know some journalists who want to explore a proven way to change human behavior for the better.
Alice Miller ran into great resistance from the media, so it’s no surprise that I’m running into the same problems. All I need is one champion, who will understand the power of her incredible message of hope. If you can’t be that person for me, perhaps you can introduce me to someone who will.
I’d love to discuss this with you further at your earliest convenience.
Sincerely,
Sylvie Shene  

To read more about my experiences with the mob of sociopaths or narcissists at my last job read my blog Experienced Knowledge  

Wednesday, November 22, 2017

What Do We Do with the Art of Monstrous Men?

What Do We Do with the Art of Monstrous Men?

Reading the article in the link above the quotes below by Alice Miller come to mind:

It is a great mistake to imagine that one can resolve traumas in a symbolic fashion. If that were possible, poets, painters, and other artists would be able to resolve their pain through creativity. This is not the case, however. Creativity helps us channel the pain of trauma into symbolic acts; it doesn't help us resolve it. If symbolic revenge for maltreatment received in childhood were effective, then dictators would eventually stop humiliating and torturing their fellow human beings. As long as they choose to deceive themselves about who really deserves their hatred, however, and as long as they go on feeding that hatred in symbolic form instead of experiencing and resolving it within the context of their own childhood, their hunger for revenge will remain insatiable (see Miller 1990a).” read more here

7. You have also related the works of famous writers like Schiller, Nietzsche, Proust, Rimbaud, Kafka etc. to their childhood experiences, concluding that the books they produced were encrypted accounts of suppressed childhood dramas. This is a new and unusual perspective on literary production. Have you identified such links between other kinds of artist and their works?
7. Yes, I find them in all the biographies I have come across so far. After all, it’s an entirely logical thing. Children learn at a very early stage what their parents instill into them. So if they experience violence, that’s what they learn. As they are prohibited from actually demonstrating what they have learned, they may initially be incredibly obedient and remarkably “good” children, as the Auschwitz commander Rudolf Höss reveals. It is only later that they demonstrate the brutality they have learned from their parents. Artists often express unconsciously what they survived in childhood and later repressed. They do it mostly in a coded manner. Unfortunately. this still appears to be forbidden knowledge, so far no one has cued in to my research. When individuals run amok, EVERYONE insists without a second thought that they have ABSOLUTELY no idea what can have prompted an adolescent to do so, and in the press no reference is ever made to their childhood. In all cases, the parents are spared this kind of inquiry. So how can readers understand how violence is learned if no one helps them?

8. You yourself are a painter, and you have engaged with your childhood experiences in your pictures, published in the book Bilder meines Lebens (Pictures of My Life, Suhrkamp 2006) and on your internet site. How has the art world responded to this overt way of coming to terms with childhood?
8.It has been ignored altogether. I have merely been praised for my artistic achievements. It is as if there was some conspiracy prohibiting any mention of childhood. What I believe is behind this attitude is the childhood fear we all have inside us, the fear that our parents would punish us if we dared to query what they have done. read more HERE


  1. The fantasies expressed in literature, art, fairy tales, and dreams often unconsciously convey early childhood experiences in a symbolic way.
  2. This symbolic testimony is tolerated in our culture thanks to society’s chronic ignorance of the truth concerning childhood; if the import of these fantasies were understood, they would be rejected.
  3. A past crime cannot be undone by our understanding of the perpetrator’s blindness and unfulfilled needs.
  4. New crimes, however, can be prevented, if the victims begin to see and be aware of what has been done to them.
  5. Therefore, the reports of victims will be able to bring about more awareness, consciousness, and sense of responsibility in society at large.  Read more Here
Children who have sensed in such exchanges that their injuries and their feelings are taken seriously by their parents and that their dignity is respected are also more immune to the detrimental effects of television than those who harbor unconscious, suppressed desires for revenge on their parents and for that reason identify with scenes of violence on the screen. Politicians may envisage the prohibition of violence on television as a remedy, but this is unlikely to unlikely to have much effect.
By contrast, children who have been informed about the early injuries inflicted on them will be much more critical of brutal movies or quickly lose interest in them altogether. They may even find it easier to see through the dissociated sadism of the movie-makers than do the many adults who are unwilling to face up to the suffering of the maltreated children they once were. Such adults may be fascinated by scenes of violence without suspecting that they are being forced to consume the emotional trash peddled as “art” by filmmakers who are unaware that they are in fact parading their own histories.
This was forcibly brought home to me by an interview with a respected American film directed fond of including repulsive monsters and sadistic sex scenes in his movies. He said that modern film technology had made it possible for him to demonstrate that love has many faces and that sadistic sex is one of them. He appeared completely oblivious of where, when, and from whom he was forced to adopt this confusing philosophy as a small child, and this ignorance is quite likely to accompany him to the end of his days. His self-styled “art” enables him both to tell his own story and to erase it from his memory at the same time. Naturally, such blindness has severe social consequences. Read more HERE
Not every victim becomes an abuser, but every abuser was once a victim of abuse and no matter what anyone says this is a fact. Violence is not genetic, it’s learned.

To read more about my experiences with the mob of sociopaths or narcissists at my last job read my blog Experienced Knowledge  

Friday, November 10, 2017

Out Your Pig

#MeToo #OutYourPig 

Instead of #MeToo, French Women Say 'Out Your Pig'

Portugal like France is a culture of silence. ""France has had a culture of silence," says Laetitia Cesar-Franquet, a sociologist with the Regional Institute of Social Work, an organization that helps train professionals who work to ensure fair treatment in the workplace." Read more here

I have been outing my pig, Dr. Julio Machado Vaz, since the year 2000, but the silence from the #media and everyone else is deafening. 
https://sylvieshene.blogspot.com/2015/07/will-more-women-in-portugal-find.html


Público Semanário SOL Jornal do Brasil BBC News

To read more about my experiences with the mob of sociopaths or narcissists at my last job read my blog Experienced Knowledge  

Thursday, November 9, 2017

Raped By Carl Jung, Then Murdered by the Nazis

Raped By Carl Jung, Then Murdered by the Nazis
But the theft and erasure of Sabina Spielrein’s intellectual legacy by the psychoanalytic establishment may be an even more troubling crime By Phyllis Chesler

I'm not surprised one bit by what I read in the article above by Phyllis Chesler.  I have learned most people in the healthcare profession are the most repressed people I know transferring their own unresolved repression into their patients -- under the disguise of help -- making them more confused than they already are. 

"It even had a chapter that was hailed by other feminists as a “pioneering” exposé of sex between patient and therapist. Yet I had no idea that Spielrein’s analyst, Carl Gustav Jung, had deflowered her when she was one of his hospitalized patients and most needed his help." 

I had a similar experience with a psychiatric doctor in Portugal when I was  a confused vulnerable 17 years old. I have been trying to tell my story since the year 2000, but so far no one is listening and paying attention! I'm sure I was not the only one!

Wednesday, November 8, 2017

I Am Always Hoping to be Proved Wrong

Hi E,


Remember me discussing LC an author that adopted a young boy. I wish I was wrong, but once again I'm proved that I'm right. I'm always hoping to be wrong for once, but it's always a matter of time that I get proof that my perceptions are correct all along. 

I  saw a post on Facebook that her adopted son committed suicide. Just like I wrote in my e-mail to you in 2013. "Anyway I have seen all the red flags that this woman is very sick, I never tried to confront her directly before, but my posts must have made her feel uncomfortable and she unfriended me like a year or so ago, she adopted a child, he is now a teenager and I can see all the signs she having incestuous relationship with her son hiding behind the theory of “attachment parenting” if is not physical, is without a doubt emotional, and you can see this young man is confused beyond measure. Women that can’t have children usually are against abortion, is like they want other women to have the children they can’t for them to unconsciously use and exploit to satisfy their unconscious needs." 

People get mad at me for trying to reveal the real state of affairs that they work so hard to try to hide behind pretty veils, theories, masks, facades, pretty lies, and illusions, but every day I'm getting used to it more and more. 

I know the chances of me meeting people with the courage to become 100% real are very slim. This young man had a better chance to come to terms with his painful truths in the foster care system and survive to be able to live with his painful truth of being an unwanted child of coming into this world without love and never have been loved than having this lady coming to his life casting herself in the mother role and savior masquerading with the illusion of love, confusing him completely preventing him from ever breaking free from his emotional prison. 

We need the truth more than anything else in this world to be truly free. Sadly he was only 23, but he did not leave this world without reenacting his childhood drama, because he left a young girl pregnant and is abandoning his baby like he was abandoned as a small baby. 

It's very hard to break free from the chains of compulsion repetition and he is leaving a baby behind that most like will continue reenacting this painful scenario and the chains of compulsion repetition will go on endless... 

"B had told his mother he was confused and dizzy ... L said Wednesday she believed B’s death was connected to his childhood traumaOf course he was confused and dizzy with her illusion of love. She is right his childhood trauma had to do with his suicide, but her illusion of love pushed him over the edge. 

Sylvie

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Sylvie Shene <sylvies> wrote:


Hi E,

R just called me! But I didn’t take the call and he did not leave a message. I am not calling him back, because I know he is looking for a fight, so he can project his anger at me and have me express his disowned anger and then accuse me of being angry and then shame me for being angry so he can also transfer his repressed shame into me.

He thinks I am stupid, but I am not playing his game, I refuse to go there with him, I tried in 2008 and if he has not learned anything since 2008, he is not going to and I am moving on. All these years I kept a distance, because I felt something not right about him and never felt completely safe with him and now I got the proof that my gut feeling has been right all along! 

Isn’t interesting that the best way to find out who your real friends are is when you are down or when you are about to create something great. R’s intense repressed jealousy being triggered is a sign that I ma about to do something great! And if he had the courage to face and feel his own repression he could be part of it, but instead he letting his unresolved repressed emotions sabotage it to keep his idealized mother and childhood intact, he rather be a sociopath and destroy me, so can feel superior over me. His jealousy being triggered like this is the best compliment  he could give me! Because if it was bad he wouldn’t be this worried that my book might make it and to try to destroy me. He is showing all the signs of a sociopath/psychopath.

Sociopaths/psychopaths will go to any lengths to achieve what they want, if they have children they will even use their own children to achieve their means.

While the average person spends a good portion of the day thinking about those she loves (children, husband, parents, friends), a sociopath doesn't have these emotional ties with anyone. Instead, she will spend all that time plotting to take you down and destroy you either literally or figuratively. Even removing yourself from the sphere of the sociopath's influence may only work for a while. You must remain consistent. Do not let the sociopath fool you a second time with his or her charm. Do not believe the person has changed. Most therapists agree that sociopaths cannot be treated effectively. Instead, take steps to protect yourself and your family. Consider drastic solutions like moving, changing jobs and making new friends. Remember that it is all a game to the sociopath. She or he does not care if you're hurt. The only goal they have is winning. The only way you can beat a sociopath is to get away from a sociopath. Accept the harsh reality. Sociopaths do not change. Perhaps you've come to the conclusion that you are dealing with a sociopath. You've read the key symptoms and they describe this person perfectly. You've read the True Lovefraud stories, and you recognize the behaviors. So what do you do now? Accept the reality that a sociopath will never change.” 

I don’t know if I share with you the comments I made while back in W’s post. This LC is the author of the book I of M and P, I bought her book when I just met her on facebook three years ago, but I did not finished reading it and I threw it in the garbage. She preaching home schooling as the answer to protecting children and I am sure home school might be the best course for some children, if their parents are healthy and balances the child life with social activities with other children, but when parents are unhealthy a child going to school might be the only break from parents’ insanity and the chance to explore other ways of being.
 I have seen the worst cases of child abuse by parents that home school their children. Anyway I have seen all the red flags that this women is very sick, I never tried to confront her directly before, but my posts must have made her feel uncomfortable and she unfriended me like a year or so ago, she adopted a child, he is now a teenager and I can see all the signs she having incestuous relationship with her son hiding behind the theory of “attachment parenting” if is not physical, is without a doubt emotional, and you can see this young man is confused beyond measure. Women that can’t have children usually are against abortion is like they want other women to have the children they can’t for them to unconsciously use and exploit to satisfy their unconscious needs.
Anyway here are my comments in reaction to her comments in W'’s post:



 Sylvie Imelda Shene: I have tried to stay out of discussions and commenting on other people’s posts, because I have a tendency to trigger people’s repressed anger and then they delete me in anger, but I can’t help myself and have to make this comment. I don’t consider myself a feminist per se, but I am for women’s rights, children rights and men’s rights, I am for every breathing living beings' rights. I know a lot of feminists are too afraid to go to the roots why some men and women try so hard to repress them, but I am grateful for a lot of the accomplishments some feminists were able to do before me and I have come to enjoy thanks to their hard work. Even though I wished the feminists had the courage to go deeper, because as long we refuse to go to the roots causes, will always going to be oppressors trying to repress us. 

I totally understand their fears. L accuses the feminists being a hate group, but I see L’s anger very clear being transferred at the feminists groups also. Until people really consciously feel the fears and anger of the child they once were within the context of their own childhood, they will unconsciously and compulsively look for a scapegoat to relieve pen up anger and it seems the feminists have come to be the perfect scapegoat for L.

These words below Alice Miller wrote to me before she passed come truer every day: “AM: I have learned over the years of my work on the internet that there are readers who SEEM to understand SOME of what I have written, at least intellectually, but they are still so afraid of their very cruel parents and of their repressed FEELINGS of rage towards them that they are constantly looking for scapegoats. They thus live in a continual confusion pretending that they are healed and even offering help and empathy to others. But eventually they use unconsciously other people (even the ones who are quite friendly to them) as a poisonous container like their parents did to them, and if the offended people begin to defend themselves they can become very mean. I can only urge you to trust your feelings and to NOT offer your empathy and interest to everybody just because they say they read and understood everything I have written. In most of the cases it is a lie. To understand my books means to overcome the fear of one’s parents, to honestly feel the justified rage TOWARD THEM and to no longer use others to getting free from the accumulated rage.”



Sylvie Imelda Shene: What makes me the saddest is when women masquerading with their illusion of love for men and even unborn children oppress or stand in the way of other women’s body autonomy and freedom.

Even though I understand why some women hate women and want to take revenge on other women for the wrongs done to them when they were defenseless little children by their own mothers or other woman caregivers in their lives, my biggest oppressors in my childhood were also women, but directing this latent hate at other women makes them no different of the men that take revenge on other women for what their mothers did to them when were defenseless little boys.

Hate will always be insatiable and until is understood and felt within the context of our childhood will  endless look for new victims to take revenge for the wrongs done to them when they were little, because hate cannot ever be resolved by scapegoating, but only when is seen and consciously felt and understood within the context our own childhood.

Until women are free to make their own choices without external pressures, they will sadly oppress others overtly or covertly, under the mask of the illusion of love, especially their children.

These words by Alice Miller just came to mind: ““We cannot really love if we are forbidden to know our truth, the truth about our parents and caregivers as well as about ourselves. We can only try to behave as if we were loving, but this hypocritical behavior is the opposite of love. It is confusing and deceptive, and it produces much helpless rage in the deceived person. This rage must be repressed in the presence of the pretended “love,” especially if one is dependent, as a child is, on the person who is masquerading in this illusion of love.” (The Drama of the Gifted Child: The search for the True Self) Page 23 

So if we really like and care about men and children, we have to do what we can to aid women’s liberation, so they can carry pregnancies to term and give birth to children by choice and love and raise children in freedom. And not by external manipulations and coerced to carry pregnancies to term and give birth to new beings by force, because anything done by force or manipulations never has a good outcome.

Until women are truly free to make their own decisions, no one around them will be truly free either, especially their children, raising a new generation of oppressors continuing the vicious circle endless. 

Alice Miller says best: “It is a great mistake to imagine that one can resolve traumas in a symbolic fashion. If that were possible, poets, painters, and other artists would be able to resolve their pain through creativity. This is not the case, however. Creativity helps us channel the pain of trauma into symbolic acts; it doesn't help us resolve it. If symbolic revenge for maltreatment received in childhood were effective, then dictators would eventually stop humiliating and torturing their fellow human beings. As long as they choose to deceive themselves about who really deserves their hatred, however, and as long as they go on feeding that hatred in symbolic form instead of experiencing and resolving it within the context of their own childhood, their hunger for revenge will remain insatiable” 


Tuesday, November 7, 2017

Half Truths

Thought this may be of interest to you.


Hi C,

The article has a lot of nuggets of truth or half-truths to get people's attention, but is misleading, probably written by a psychopath with a lot of intellectual knowledge trying to show that  in the right context can be good in  a psychopaths too, that's a lie, they might achieve material success with their lies, half-truths and by destroying all those that stand in their way. But at the end, they end up destroying themselves, everything else and have a sad end... 

He says psychopaths don't feel fear, yes true to an extent, but only because they have mastered the art of repression to perfection. But if someone like me crosses their path and triggers their fears of exposure, that's when their true colors come out and will gather all their forces  at their command to destroy the person they fear, like we witnessed with the sociopaths at the community where I worked for nine and half years -- that they tried every trick up their sleeve to destroy me. And don't care who else they destroy to get to their target, everyone else they destroy to get to their targets is collateral damage in their eyes.

Keeping their illusions alive and good image at any cost, nothing else matters to them. And yes there's such a thing as pure evil. I have stared it in the face many times! 

You might like reading the blogs below I wrote a long time ago. 


http://sylvieshene.blogspot.com/2015/03/germanwings-plane-crash.html


To read more about my experiences with the mob of sociopaths or narcissists at my last job read my blog Experienced Knowledge  

Saturday, November 4, 2017

Why People in Germany Love to Celebrate Alice Miller’s Son Martin Miller

Dear H,

Thank you for your good wishes.

I think about writing to you every day! But every day ends without having the chance to write to you.

I hope you are not as stressed at work anymore. My place of work has good and bad days, but for now, I think I’m not being targeted by sociopaths and I feel safe for NOW! 

“And this thing with Martin Miller is so sad... here in Germany people love to "celebrate" him, and they seem to like the "fact", that Alice Miller was not perfect this is because so they can justify themselves from really facing their wounds...”

Yes, you are right this thing with Martin Miller is very sad. Most people in our society are too scared to face the fear of their childhood pain and live in denial hiding themselves behind a cloth of “perfection” and seeing themselves as superior and better than others -- exploiting the humanness of others -- I have come to the conclusion that most people in our society are sociopaths or malignant narcissist to a degree.

This why I’m not surprised to hear most people in Germany seem to like the ‘fact” that Alice Miller was not a perfect mother. Like I wrote you in an earlier e-mail:  “You know what I think that makes the sociopaths more afraid of me and hope my book never breaks through it’s that they can’t find a weak link in me.

That’s nothing in me they can get to grab on to try to discredit me and my book and that’s why all walk away and stay very silent in hope that my story never breaks through.

Alice Miller's weak link is her son and we all know how all the sociopaths including Martin Miller try to use this weak link to make a name for themselves by standing on Alice Miller's head.

I am so glad I didn’t have children; otherwise, the sociopaths out there might try to use my children to get to me, to try to discredit me and my book, like they do with Alice Miller, because if I had children without resolving my childhood repression first, me too, I would not have been a perfect “mother” and without a doubt, my children would have been wounded TOO and vulnerable to be exploited by sociopaths,  like Martin Miller is being used to stand on Alice Miller’s head, so they don’t have to face and feel the painful repressed feelings of the child they once were. When we have children without resolving our childhood repression we will unconsciously transfer into our children our internalized childhood abusers and then we face all over again our childhood abusers in our children. Oh, I'm so grateful I didn't repeat this vicious circle. 

They have nothing on me and that’s why they are so afraid of me.  And that's why also sociopaths target me at first, because they are pretty sure, confident, they can manipulate my emotions to act against myself interest, so they can point their finger at me and accuse me of being mentally unstable to silence me forever to manage their fears of exposure, but in the moment they discover they can’t manipulate me and that I see them clear as they really are, they walk away and leave me alone.

In most of these articles about sociopaths we see published online, the authors tell their readers to stop all contact and cut all forms of communication, but if we really have resolved our childhood repression there’s no need for us to stop all contact because they are the ones running away from us scared.

Before I had resolved my childhood repression I was the one running from people to keep myself safe. Now, it’s them running away from me. Nice place to be in!  What differentiates between me and the sociopaths, psychopaths and malignant narcissists, is that I truly liberated myself from the repressed emotions of the child I once was and I no longer can be manipulated and used, and the sociopaths, psychopaths malignant narcissists have mastered the art of repressing to perfection and cannot feel anything, and also have mastered the art of projecting their painful feelings into others,  that's why they always look compose, by transferring their repressed painful emotions into others, they manipulate others to act out their insanity, so they can appear to be the sane ones when in reality they are the crazy ones!  When they figure out I cannot be manipulated or used for this effect, they just walk away and leave me alone.  

This quote I just read in the article  6 Signs You're Arguing With A Psychopath is so true: "In professional environments, they want you to blow up so that coworkers and superiors see you as unstable. In romantic settings, they want you to lash out so that they can use your “hysterical” reactions to show potential partners and exes how crazy you’ve become. Until we understand this, we’ll continue to fall into their trap So next time someone you're arguing with uses these tactics to draw you in, try a different strategy: simply smile, nod, and go live your life. They don’t deserve another second of your time" That's exactly what I do! I might lose money, because of sociopaths in the workplace, but I no longer fall into their traps and I stay free! 

Sociopaths know they can’t change and believe others can’t change either and this is why I keep getting targeted, because they don’t believe me that I truly liberated myself and are confident they can bring me back to the emotional prison to be manipulated and used as their scapegoat or poison container to temporally and superficially alleviate their disowned pen up painful repressed emotions.

I have to be constantly on the lookout for new sociopaths, psychopaths, and malignant narcissists.

I hope you are feeling better and take good care in this crazy world full of sociopaths and psychopaths.

Hugs from Arizona,

Sylvie

Also, read my blogs in the links below:
The son of Alice Miller should have given the title to his book - The Drama of the gifted child - the tragedy of my life

To read more about my experiences with the mob of sociopaths or narcissists at my last job read my blog Experienced Knowledge  

Wednesday, November 1, 2017

Spirituality and Religion Are Blinders that Hide the Truth

Hi R, i have not spoken with you in a long time! I hope all is well with you and M.

You have been on my mind quite a bit lately and reading the article 7 Spiritual Ideas That Enable Abuse And Shame The Victim it really made me think of you and I thought I would share it with you, because you have been so affected by religion/spirituality, especially the new age spirituality like the course of miracles and the law of attraction, etc,  lies "poison" that seems you can't let go or purge this poison out of your body.  It's a really good article you should read it!  

Religion and Spirituality in our society have really become blinders that block true healing. 


If we had written a book telling the same old recycled BS that a computer can generate! My book would have been a bestseller already! And the reason this BS is so popular with the masses is that it doesn't challenge them to face their own painful childhood repression.
https://sylvieshene.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-lie-we-live.html

Just like Alice Miller wrote in the answers below to her readers:

"I am also glad that you have the hope that we can pass on our knowledge to the masses. I had this hope 30 years ago when I wrote the Drama. I thought that showing the truth can change so much. Meanwhile, I became more skeptical or just more impatient after I discovered the fear of the beaten child in all of us that built up the omnipresent resistance against the truth." Alice Miller

(Me too like Alice Miller had the hope with the writing of my book would help pass this knowledge to the masses, but like Alice Miller, I have become skeptical and with the writing of my book I too learned that people's repressed fears at the parents builds omnipresent resistance against the truth. And people rather destroy others than face and consciously feel their own repressed fears to see the truth. And this is why I have been harassed, prosecuted and ostracized in the workplace since I published my book. I understand people's fears of their childhood pain that have been trying to keep repressed all of their lives, but it is still disappointing that pretty much everyone I meet doesn't have the courage to face their fears and become real)   

 AM: Thank you for your reply; it is much telling to me because in my opinion the word “spirituality” is in most cases covering something that is not clear. In your concept, I don’t see the path to growing but rather the repetition and continuation of the child’s dependency on illusions. My experience gave me a very different view into illness and healing. If you have enough time, you can read the letters published here and see that growing and healing begin when former victims of mistreatment start to confront themselves with the cruelty of their upbringing, without illusions about the “love” of a higher power and without blaming themselves for projections. They allow themselves to feel their authentic emotions without moral restrictions and in this way become eventually true to themselves.
If you succeed to read the 12 steps with an open mind, freely, as if it were for the first time, you will easily discover how they continue to keep the ACA in the former dependency of the child: fear, self-blame, and permanent overstrain.
A person who has eventually painfully realized that she was never loved, can based on this truth, learn to love herself and her children. But a person who lives with the illusion that she was indeed loved by the Higher Power, though she has missed to feel this love, will probably blame herself in the old manner for her lack of gratitude and will tend to demand the love from her children. By so doing, she will pass on the blame to her children if they don’t behave in the way she wishes them to do; she will pass on the blame, together with the lie that she learned in her so-called recovery
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AM: The questions you are asking me will hopefully find their answers in my last book: Free from Lies. Here I can only give you some indications. By reading the Drama I wrote 30 years ago many people found their own feelings until then dissociated, which opened them access to their tragic histories. The countless letters I received later informed me about the huge territory of suffering in childhood that almost all of us have endured and almost all of us keep DENYING over their whole lives by paying for this denial with their health. Or by letting others, mostly their own children, to pay. Hence over the 30 years, I came to understand that to heal the wounds stemming from child abuse we must give up this denial by overcoming the fear of being punished again and take the risk of feeling not only the grief but also and above all the RAGE about the way we were treated in childhood. This insight allowed me to develop a therapy concept that works.
I don’t use the word “spirituality” because it doesn’t have any specific meaning to me, it is often used to name very different issues that can be defined more precisely without using this word. I don’t need to believe as Einstein did that the WORLD is perfect but I do make the discovery again and again that our bodies function in a marvelous way as soon as we stop to lie and to betray ourselves, as soon as we are ready to accept our truth.
https://www.alice-miller.com/en/spirituality-for-recovery/

Thank you so much for explaining to me how you see the possible role of religions whose influence on the masses – you are right – -can’t be ignored. As to your example concerning slavery, we could indeed use the same argument maintaining that child abuse is a moral issue. The problem is that most (if not all) people don’t consider themselves as abused but well (strictly) brought up. For that reason, I rather speak about hitting children because these are FACTS that can’t be denied. I am glad that people like you exist already, people who know how they suffered in childhood and so learn to love and respect themselves. I am also glad that you have the hope that we can pass on our knowledge to the masses. I had this hope 30 years ago when I wrote the Drama. I thought that showing the truth can change so much. Meanwhile, I became more skeptic or just more impatient after I discovered the fear of the beaten child in all of us that built up the omnipresent resistance against the truth. If you have time enough try to read my last book “Free From Lies”, Norton NY, 3009. 


AM: Thank you for your further thoughts. I agree with almost everything you write besides your trust in the help of religionsHave you been growing up in a religious home, have you been a devoted child? This could explain your strong belief that representatives of religions can become interested in the tragedy of child abuse. I made many experiences in this direction and came to the conclusion that all religions are based on the denial of true feelings. Buddhism clearly preaches only “positive feelings” and coming away from the negative ones (that are actually authentic, true). You want to lead people towards the truth, how then do you expect help from religions? I don’t see neither how you want to pass on your knowledge to the masses who never never heard anything about unconsciousness, about repressed emotions etc though they are constantly driven by them. As a therapist, you know how much time it takes to become free from lies that were inflicted on us in the first years of our lives. How do you want the masses to liberate themselves from this burden without long therapies? I don’t want to question your optimism, it is precious to me, I would love to be able to share it with you but I can’t ignore the fact that the power of religions is stronger than the inborn capacity to love if it is so early destroyed. If we expected help from religions that are based on denial we would “reckon without the host”. The capacity for love we brought to the world at our birth has been systematically destroyed by religious hypocrisy.
You say rightly that for 100 years now we have been exposed to the idea (to the FACT, I would say) that childhood experience shapes the adult. What happened to this discovery? In the seventies, some authors took it seriously. RD Laing, Siraala, Kemper (The Battered Child), Florence Rush, Ashley Montague and others moved in the direction towards awareness and were listened to. But today all this seems forgotten and covered by religions and all kind of esoteric “wisdom” disguised under the word “spirituality”. In the late eighties even the most powerful communist system could be abandoned because it was not linked to religion and the liberation from lies did not imply feelings of guilt as religious systems do. There, the liberation seems almost impossible because the fears of the small child don’t allow people this liberation. Where are you then looking for help? From institutions who forbid this liberation and benefit from our cruel and ignorant upbringing?


AM: Thank you for expounding your vision. Yes, it would be wonderful if we could initiate a powerful movement towards more awareness. In fact, by understanding the emotional needs of children we would come to understand OURSELVES too, the basis of our existence, of our own Being as responsible adults. But this is impossible without liberating the strong bitterness of the abused child we hide deep in our bodies because of the fears of our parents. Unfortunately, ALL religions FORBID this emotional liberation, they rather allow wars, some of them even consider wars as sacred because they have never understood that feeling the legitimate rage PROTECTS us from acting out in wars and criminality. The last is organized exactly by people who DON’T feel.

AM: Thank you very much for your letter and the essay. Among the many letters, I have received from therapists who seem to know exactly how they can make people free and happy you are one of the few exceptions who fully understand the dynamic of violence through child abuse that I described in my books and articles. I can thus easily share your vision of a spiritual revolution but without the Christian and Buddhist models. In both of them NOBODY EVER raised a voice against the habit of beating small children and even today nobody is doing this. The fear of the small child of being punished by their parents for the slightest rebellion against injustice seems to stay in almost all adults. It is universal because religions put this fear in concrete by forbidding the child to protest against parents. How do you feel about that fact that on the whole planet we can’t find even only one university where the issue of child mistreatment and its effects in the adult’s life would be taught and discussed? What can be done in your opinion to overcome this fear, to enable people to give up their denial about their own cruel upbringing called education and so to become empathetic parents? I think that there is no any other option than to feel our own truth. Try to get my two new books that will soon come out at Norton.

AM: Thank you for your letter. It helps to see how even a great discovery can be concealed by an ideology if it becomes a part of it. When Florence Rush, Sandra Butler, Michelle Morris and others wrote about child abuse in the eighties, they were feminists but were not yet so much concerned about protecting their mothers. Your quotations from Bass and Davis show how the profound denial of the mother’s role could since camouflage the truth and sometimes block the path to effective therapy. I observe everywhere how ideologies hinder us to see simple facts. Why stay many buttered women for years with their husbands and try to help them because (as they say) they “love” them, if they KNOW that tomorrow they will be hit again? I think these are the women that had to learn in the very first years of their lives to accept hitting from their mothers and never protest against this terror but indulge it with love. There was no other choice.

AM: Certainly, if I knew of some therapists who would be respectful enough to answer your questions; free enough to show indignation about what your parents have done to you; empathetic enough when you need to release your rage pent up for decades in your body; wise enough to not preach to you forgetting, forgiveness, meditation, positive thinking; honest enough to not offer you empty words like spirituality, when they feel scared by your history, and that are not increasing your life-long feelings of guilt – I would be happy to give you their names, addresses and phone-numbers.
Unfortunately, I don’t know them, but I still like to hope that they exist. However, when I am looking for them on the Internet I find plenty of esoteric and religious offers, plenty of denials, commercial interests, traditional traps, but not at all what I am looking for. For that reason, I gave you with my FAQ list tools for your own research. If a therapist refuses to answer your questions right from the start, you can be sure that by leaving him you can save yourself your time and your money. If you don’t dare to ask your questions out of your fear of your parents, your fear may be highly understandable. However, trying to do it anyway may be useful because your questions are important and by daring to ask them you can only win.

AM: I totally agree with you. In addition to all the reasons you mentioned, I think that the foundation of False Memory Syndrom had a big influence on the increasing general denial of child abuse since 1970 when Laing, Sass and many others were writing. This foundation have suit therapists who helped former victims to retrieve old memories of sexual abuse. The creators of the foundation had succeeded to spread the fear of being suit among the therapists who are now less interested in childhood and more in spirituality and other blinders like this. Thank you for your mentioning the association of parents of schizophrenics, this goes in the same direction: with much money, you can silence the most obvious truth.

Out of the Prison of Confusion

“Even Adolf Hitler never denied that he had been beaten. What he denied was that these beatings were painful. And by totally falsifying his feelings, he would become a mass murderer. That would never have occurred had he been capable of feeling, and weeping about, his situation and had he not repressed his justifiable hatred of those responsible for his distress but consciously experienced and comprehended it. Instead, he perverted this hatred into ideology. The same hold for Stalin, Ceausescu, and all the other beaten and humiliated children who later turn into tyrants and criminals.

The return of the truth only begins to announce itself in the moment that we turn the tables and the word “spanked” condemns itself as heartless testimony to the disrespect and humiliation inflicted on the child. Only once we have become capable of empathizing with the feelings of the abused child we once were, and rejection the mockery and cynicism of our adult selves, do we begin to open the gates to the truth. Only then can we also stop being a danger to others.”  From the book “Breaking Down the Wall of Silence” Alice Miller page 15, 16

AM: We seem to agree about the issue of therapy: that working on the own history is a way to healing the effects of child abuse and its denial. But there is still another question that bothers us and seems not to bother you, namely: Why is this knowledge (for us so easy to understand) globally denied, ignored, feared, and avoided? What causes this ignorance and blindness of abusers, cruel parents, doctors, lawyers, and why don’t they understand the most simple connections? In our opinion, they are hindered to understand by the lesions in their mind, caused by the fear of a tormented baby and toddler. Why can only very few people realize that spanking children produces a violent and sick society?
What do you answer to this question? Please, answer ONLY this one.

AM: Denial is the main defense of an alcoholic. It is thus no wonder that you “learned” to do it from your father. But he didn’t know what he was doing and you DO. You have the courage to question your behavior and to look for its sources. I thus have no any doubt that you will overcome this state, you will FEEL the plight of the little boy, the victim of your father’s denial, and more and more he will feel safe with you and will less and less need to behave like the father did. https://www.alice-miller.com/en/lost-again/

AM: You are right: For everybody who dares to think It MUST be scary to see with open eyes that we blindly produce the EVIL (the violence) in almost every newborn as long as we deny the violence and injustice we suffered from as children. We fear the simple and undeniable facts so much that we create all kinds of theories to conceal this truth. In this way, we can avoid feeling the fear of the punishments the child we once were had to expect if he SAW the truth and even talked about it. There are however some people who dared to feel their truth and experienced the liberation from the prison of lies that for some ” skeptical” persons are not logical at all but maybe just quieting. https://www.alice-miller.com/en/scary-yes/



2. What role do you think religions/churches play in connection with cruelty to children?

2. All the religions I know of uphold the tenet that children should honor their parents and ancestors, however cruel they may have been to their children. Almost everyone abides by this commandment, even if their health suffers as a result. The reason for this suffering is that for the body morality is meaningless. The body cannot lie. It has stored the memories of the torments inflicted on it and it urges us to respect that truth. The point is that we cannot truly love and honor people who have made us suffer for years on end, unless we deceive ourselves into doing so.

3. How, in your experience, do representatives of the church respond to this issue?

3. As you know, I have written a number of letters to the present Pope and his predecessor, also to various cardinals, including Cardinal Lustiger. I got either evasive replies or no answer at all. I wanted young parents to be informed how dangerous it is to hit their children. After all, it has been scientifically established that such treatment causes brain damage. NO ONE showed the least interest in this information or the slightest compassion for the millions of little children at the receiving end of such cruelty. I began to feel as if I had been recommending a recipe for some strange, exotic dish. I go into greater detail on these exchanges in my book The Truth Will Set You Free.

4. What effect does cruelty to children have on society?

4. The children of today are the citizens of tomorrow. They are powerless to fend off their parents’ attacks, they are helpless, and they have to suppress their anger unless they want to come in for even more punishment. But as soon as they reach adulthood, this anger resurfaces and is directed above all at their own children or at other people they can treat as scapegoats with impunity. If they are powerful enough, they can vent their rage on whole peoples and work off their suppressed anger on millions of individuals. In my book Breaking Down the Wall of Silence, I take Ceausescu as an example, giving a detailed account of how this mechanism functioned under his dictatorship in Romania. But there are also very many people who do not vent their suppressed anger on others. Instead, they punish themselves for what was done to them, precisely as they were taught in their childhood and as their religion demands. They fall ill, become drug-dependent, or lapse into depression, all because the last thing they dare to do is accuse their parents.

6. In For Your Own Good, you examined the atrocities perpetrated by Adolf Hitler in the light of his childhood. What conclusions did you come to?

6. Hitler’s biography brought it home to me for the first time how dangerous it is to deny the horrors of an extremely cruel childhood. But it would take too long to explain here, you need to read the evidence set out in the book.

7. You have also related the works of famous writers like Schiller, Nietzsche, Proust, Rimbaud, Kafka etc. to their childhood experiences, concluding that the books they produced were encrypted accounts of suppressed childhood dramas. This is a new and unusual perspective on literary production. Have you identified such links between other kinds of artist and their works?

7. Yes, I find them in all the biographies I have come across so far. After all, it’s an entirely logical thing. Children learn at a very early stage what their parents instill into them. So if they experience violence, that’s what they learn. As they are prohibited from actually demonstrating what they have learned, they may initially be incredibly obedient and remarkably “good” children, as the Auschwitz commander Rudolf Höss reveals. It is only later that they demonstrate the brutality they have learned from their parents. Artists often express unconsciously what they survived in childhood and later repressed. They do it mostly in a coded manner. Unfortunately. this still appears to be forbidden knowledge, so far no one has cued in to my research. When individuals run amok, EVERYONE insists without a second thought that they have ABSOLUTELY no idea what can have prompted an adolescent to do so, and in the press, no reference is ever made to their childhood. In all cases, the parents are spared this kind of inquiry. So how can readers understand how violence is learned, if no one helps them?

8. You yourself are a painter, and you have engaged with your childhood experiences in your pictures, published in the book Bilder meines Lebens (Pictures of My Life, Suhrkamp 2006) and on your internet site. How has the art world responded to this overt way of coming to terms with childhood?

8.It has been ignored altogether. I have merely been praised for my artistic achievements. It is as if there was some conspiracy prohibiting any mention of childhood. What I believe is behind this attitude is the childhood fear we all have inside us, the fear that our parents would punish us if we dared to query what they have done.

9. Adults treated cruelly in childhood are frequently advised to forgive the perpetrators. This is the stance adopted by the religions and by most forms of psychotherapy. In your books, you contradict this approach. Why?

9. As I said before, our bodies have no understanding of religion or morals. If we ignore the physical experience of cruelty, we pay for this self-betrayal with illnesses, or our children have to pay for it, or both. Forgiveness heals no injuries. They can only be healed by admitting the painful truth, not by self-deception. The healing process requires them to be uncovered, not left in the dark. Some priests abuse children for their sexual gratification BECAUSE they refuse to face the fact that they were abused in this way when they were small. Every morning they forgive all “trespassers” without knowing that they are driven by the compulsion both to repeat and to deny what they once went through themselves. If they were confronted with their own history and if revealing therapy enabled them to protest angrily against what was done to them in their early years, then they would not feel the compulsion to endanger the lives of their charges. I have described this approach to therapy in my last two books, notably Free from Lies.

10. For a number of years now there has been the talk of a newly discovered disorder, the so-called “false memory syndrome.” Do you think it conceivable that someone could wrongly imagine they had been treated cruelly in childhood?

10. No. Our organism tends to shy away from pain, not to invent it. If we do invent a story it will ALWAYS be less harmful than the real, repressed one, was The False Memory Foundation is an interest group established by rich parents in the 1980s, suing those therapists whose treatment had enabled their adult children to recall the sexual abuse once inflicted on them by the parents. Unfortunately, many therapists were intimidated by this foundation, and this may be one of the reasons why childhood reality plays no part in most of the therapies on offer today.

11. In the meantime, we know that this so-called syndrome has never been scientifically acknowledged. So why is it still taken so seriously?

11. Precisely because it serves to DENY the truth. That is why it has been welcomed with open arms. The activities of this foundation have now been hailed both in France and Germany. It reminds me of the time when Sigmund Freud willfully ignored his discovery of sexual abuse and offered his disciples the Oedipus complex so that he would not have to fear his own father, “who may have been a pervert himself” (cited after Freud in my book Thou Shalt Not Be Aware).

12. Your books have gone into many editions and have been translated into 30 languages. Why has it taken so long for your insights to gain credence?

12. Because all I have to offer is the advice to take a close look at one’s own childhood. And that is the last thing we want. But those people who have been brave enough to do so, instead of allowing themselves to be sidetracked by all kinds of theories designed to spare the parents, actually discover gold mines in their histories, the key to understanding their whole lives. When they have identified the truth, symptoms like depression or eating disorders simply disappear. Of course, there is often a lot of anguish involved in this process, but it’s worth it.

13. What changes to society would be necessary to prevent violence from being passed on from one generation to the next?

13. What we need above all is the spread of knowledge about the dynamics of violence, mass enlightenment on the way in which we produce a tendency to violence in our children. With the information I sent to the Popes, I hoped I might trigger an “aha!” response and instill in them the desire to protect the children. One single statement from the Vatican would have galvanized millions of young parents. But nothing happened. People still hit their children, and the effects are disastrous. A strict ban on such crimes would finally make people aware that every child MUST be respected and has the right to protection from the state. Otherwise, we will be rearing young people who will think nothing of starting wars in the future. Beaten children lose their natural compass.