Monday, February 8, 2021

The Time Has Come to Share J. H. Emails Full of Poison

 Hi S, 

sorry it took me so long to respond to your last comment. Now I only write while I’m at work because the little girl within me doesn’t want me to sit on the desk at home writing -- rather be playing -- doing things I like and hanging with my cats --  so if work is busy I’m not writing at all! As I have shared many times before I'm extremely dyslexic and writing is one of the hardest things to do in life. 

I have learned nothing I can write, say or do will do much to help humanity wake up from its deep repression --- so from now on I will just write if I have the time at work and if I feel like it

I worked also on Thanksgiving Day and Christmas!

Also, the little girl within me doesn’t like me to be on social media anymore, so my presence on social media will be limited from now on too! Like Alice Miller once wrote: Of course, the Internet allows everybody to show themselves, their emotional insights as well as their emotional blindness and I have grown tired of the predominance of people's emotional blindness on social media!

Yes, it has been quite a road I have been on! And I’m very proud of my journey! I’m free at last!

And this is one of the reasons I was targeted by very repressed people because they got envious of me and they wanted to steal my freedom and remove my permanent smile off my face forever, but my smile is real! Not fake like theirs! What I have can't be bought with money and I can’t be stolen! And this is why they were so envious that they gathered all the forces at their command trying to destroy my life!

The only way for people to stop abusing children is to face and resolve their own repression, otherwise, they will be driven by the repressed emotions of the child they once were into the state of repetition compulsion, sooner or later, in one form or another, to abuse others -- especially their own children – if a layperson like me -- can see this clearly -- and understand these psychological mechanisms -- then the real question should be why the talented, gifted, formally educated, and so much more intelligent can’t see and understand these psychological mechanisms?! Childhood repression affects everyone to a degree, layperson or not!

Education alone is nothing more than one more big illusion! The more talented, gifted, and sharp a person's intellect is, the more, they master the art of compartmentalization, and dissociation and create elaborated rationalizations, lies, and illusions to help them run from facing and consciously feeling their own repression and painful truths --- what people need most is courage! Intelligence alone is not enough! 

Having special gifts and talents is wonderful, and it’s okay to cash in your talents for a living, but when people hide behind their special gifts, talents, fame, and money to hide their own personal truth and keep themselves and others distracted from the truth and facts, then, you are misusing your talents and contributing for the lies to spread and silently or covertly you are part of all the violence and atrocities we are witnessing in our world. 

So if people think they are better than others, because they have special talents, they are being delusional. Just like Alice Miller wrote; "It is a great mistake to imagine that one can resolve traumas in a symbolic fashion. If that were possible, poets, painters, and other artists would be able to resolve their pain through creativity. This is not the case, however. Creativity helps us channel the pain of trauma into symbolic acts; it doesn't help us resolve it. If symbolic revenge for maltreatment received in childhood were effective, then dictators would eventually stop humiliating and torturing their fellow human beings. As long as they choose to deceive themselves about who really deserves their hatred, however, and as long as they go on feeding that hatred in symbolic form instead of experiencing and resolving it within the context of their own childhood, their hunger for revenge will remain insatiable (see Miller 1990a).” read more here

Yes, Alice Miller attracted quite a flock of very special birds to her; the world is full of flocks of very special birds, so it’s not hard to do!

I too have dealt with my share of flocks of special birds!  I understand Alice Miller wanting to give people a chance and just like me, I tried to give people a chance and I hoped they would not try to make me their scapegoat to temporarily and superficially alleviate their own repression.

Everyone has been a small child and pretty much is repressed to a degree, some people’s repression is more dangerous than others and no matter who you spend time with there will always be a risk they will try to make you a scapegoat or poison container.

Alice Miller, like me, was hoping people would stand by her and take responsibility for their own childhood repression and not try to make her a poison container or scapegoat and not use her to stand on her head to try to make a name for themselves.  Most people don’t want to stand on your side; they just want to be the next big thing and use you as a stepping ladder.

I’m so glad I wrote my book! It really showed me the depths of humanity’s repression and how dangerous humanity at large is! I consider myself divorced from humanity! I practice social distancing and keep human relations with long bridges, some people with very, very long bridges, and some bridges, I will never cross again!

I will share below the e-mails exchanged with a predominant person who supposedly should be understanding and proclaims to be on children's side and wanting to help people, but I learned her knowledge is just intellectual and is all talk and nothing is real about her.  I hope you and others are able to see her poison in her e-mails and how she tried to make me her poison container or scapegoat.

To this day, besides Alice Miller, every single person in the mental health field I have encountered has tried to manipulate my emotions, change my reality, and regress me into the state of the child, instead of encouraging my autonomy. And this is why many in the mental health field are very dangerous because they use their intellectual knowledge in psychology to play mind games with people and endless keep them stuck in an emotional prison for easy control and exploitation to help them create their little cults, whereas cult leaders play the parent figure over others by keeping their followers endless in the state of the child. 

The only real and authentic person I have met has been Alice Miller and these words she wrote to me come truer every day: “I have learned over the years of my work on the internet that there are readers who SEEM to understand SOME of what I have written, at least intellectually, but they are still so afraid of their very cruel parents and of their repressed FEELINGS of rage towards them that they are constantly looking for scapegoats.

They thus live in a continual confusion pretending that they are healed and even offering help and empathy to others. But eventually, they use unconsciously other people (even the ones who are quite friendly to them) as a poisonous container like their parents did to them, and if the offended people begin to defend themselves they can become very mean.

I can only urge you to trust your feelings and to NOT offer your empathy and interest to everybody just because they say they read and understood everything I have written. In most of the cases it is a lie. To understand my books means to overcome the fear of one’s parents, to honestly feel the justified rage TOWARD THEM, and to no longer use others to getting free from the accumulated rage.”

I didn’t answer last J. H. e-mail because I had written in my last e-mail to her that I would not be writing to her anymore -- I like to follow through on my word -- but I really wanted to respond to her reaction to my words I wrote in my last e-mail to her -- telling her that I had writing things very similar to what Alice Miller had written and that she never got upset with me like she did.

 J. H. wrote: “But she [Alice Miller] was livid whenever she discovered that someone had taken advantage of her in any way - it was a side of her that very few knew about.”

 I wanted to tell her that yes, Alice Miller would get upset when people that used her work to manipulate and deceive her, but she never cared when you share her work or wrote close to things she had written, as long you didn’t add or change words to her work and attributed it to Alice Miller, but she didn’t care if you used her work to help you articulate in your own words to express your true feelings. Alice Miller was happy to help you articulate your true feelings --  as long she felt you were being genuine and truthful -- but when someone used her words to manipulate and deceive others, she would get very upset, and for good reason.

I think in her last days Alice Miller came to see how most people around her had deceived her, like J H, but she felt too old and weak to fight and she gave up. I feel Alice Miller's soul wanted me to see how all these people had let her down, used her, and deceived her, and thanks to writing my book I got behind the scenes to see how most of these people are phony and fake, pretending to care for children and to understand Alice Miller's books, but it's a lie! Alice knew they were lying! That's why she warned me not to trust anyone who proclaims to read and understand her work because in most cases it's a lie!

She was so right most people are lying! They take on the ultimate cause, children's rights, to look good, but they don't care about children or anyone else, only they care about is their image and make a name for themselves with their memorized intellectual knowledge they take from the experiences and the works of others and like parrots go into the world preaching to others, but if preaching worked the world would have changed by now because the world is full of all kinds of preachers and charlatans.

 What the world needs are people with the courage to truly face and feel their own painful childhood repression.

I wanted so bad to tell J. H. that this was not a side of Alice Miller, but aside of all of us! When someone intentionally uses us and exploits us without our permission -- the natural response is anger -- and we all get upset! Not just Alice!

Below are the e-mails exchanged between me and J. H. What a nightmare she was. I think I got them all.

Here are the words she had a problem with and used to be on my very first website.

My vision is a world in which all beings, especially children, are treated with dignity, respect, understanding, and compassion. If children grow with understanding and compassion, they will protect and treat with compassion all beings that are vulnerable and weaker than they are.

And here is her mission statement:  “Our vision is a world in which all children are treated with dignity, respect, understanding, and compassion. In such a world, every child can grow into adulthood with a generous capacity for love and trust. Our society has no more urgent task.”

Until now, I only had shared the e-mails to J. H. with 2 people and here is a response from a reader of mine in Germany.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 1:05 AM, X <@gmx.de> wrote:

Dear Sylvie...

Thanks for sharing this with me. As weird and painful it appears...

(I just flow through it, as I have to deal with other stuff right now. you can read below...)

What seemed very strange to me, that you DID apologize in almost every mail, but she didn't hear it!

What puzzles me up, even more, is, that she pretends, that you took her words.

Honestly, if one tells the truth, why should we claim, that he or she had chosen this or that word for expressing the truth??? We shall be happy about it!

Truth has to be spread anyway for the sake of us all.

Of course citations should be marked clearly, and if somebody just stoles from your work, it is your good right to claim for it.

Your reaction was very polite and honest, and she was weird because it shows, that she only thinks about herself and her copyright.

This is kind of hypocrisy, as you said. What a pity.

Strange enough, I think, even if the book "shepherdess" (I don't know anything closer about this issue, and maybe I shouldn't mention it, but just take it as an example), so if the book would help at least some parents to start to question themselves and maybe get some steps forward in the direction of liberating themselves from lies of their own childhood, so what? This is better then nothing, right?

Your mail to her from March 26 is really impressive. What you said about "loving" parents, who haven't faced their true wounds and the impact on society as Alice miller explains it, is really great stuff.

Did you publish this letter on your blog? If not, I think you should.

Maybe without the personal stuff concerning J H directly, but the general parts...

Sylvie, just one more short remark...which turned out to be too long...

I now had time to read your e-mail exchange with Mrs. H properly.

Yes, as you said. She went quite mean.

I didn’t get this in its full amount for the first time skimming through.

And again, honestly...

How could she claim that she should be the only one in the world, who can use the words respect, dignity, and so on in the context of treating children.

This is ridiculous.

Are you sure, that she hasn't taken the words from you?

There might be no sense or possibility to figure out, when exactly she published this mission statement for the first time and when did you publish yours... ...but anyway...very, very weird...

J H assumptions about your probable reasons for "stealing" her words are infamous...

I think, she might have gotten a sorehead, after you told her clearly, that you found someone else for the foreword.

Well, as you have said on other occasions: one has to forget about her...

I try to write an essay or something like this, using the findings of Rebeca Wild and Emmi Pikler and others, trying to bring them together with Alice Miller’s insights.

Alice Miller’s insights are the base, and as I see it, the observations of Pikler and Wild are confirming Alice Miller’s insights very strongly.

It could be another gateway to Alice Miller and might be helpful for others, as it was for me.

Trying to find explanations for the observations, I made, when I watch myself and others treating children...

I don't claim that I am in the position of teaching others, not at all...

And maybe, I will never finish it anyway... because it is really hard work, as you know best....

Of course I would refer to Wild/ Pikler/ Miller/ Jesper Juul/ your book and other resources...

What is wrong with that???

I haven't lost hope yet, that even J H's work might inspire some rare people, maybe to get one little step further???? Or am I wrong???

Maybe it might bring someone to find Alice Miller and start to change??? Maybe this is just my illusion; I might have to give up...but anyway...

I think, if one tries to love a child or oneself honestly, one has to come to the insight once, that we are not able to do so, since we have faced our own wounds...

This is it, for today...have a good Sunday...

Take care.

X

Dear X,

Thank you for writing.

I'm sorry to hear you are dealing with a lot. Me too I have been dealing with a lot. The new guy that took the place of the old man that retired on January 18, 2016, is another full-blown psychopath and of course psychopaths feel threaten by authentic genuine people like me and started targeting me and stalking my soul right away, and I had to change jobs again to save my soul. . April 7 2016 I started a new job, so I don't feel like writing much, and I just want to be alone.

I'm glad I wrote my book, because it really showed me how people that I thought wanted to help people face their own childhood repression are not real, it's all a lie! They are fake and phony preaching to others with the knowledge they got from others but have not experienced themselves.

 Are nothing but a bunch of cowards hiding behind children pretending to care about them, but it's all a lie, they just care about themselves and be the next big thing!!! And try to destroy anyone that they think can get in front of them or in the way of them becoming the next star or big thing -- this should not be a competition!

Take good care in this crazy world where almost no one is real,

Sylvie

P.S did you notice how J H in her e-mails tried to regress me into my childhood, talking to me like I was two years old?! What an evil woman! No, she cannot help others, because she can't help parents revolve their own childhood repression and even if parents try very hard at acting loving towards their children, it's a lie, and the parents’ unresolved repressed emotions will be transferred into their own children under the mask or illusion of love, which is more confusing to children -- keeping them endless in the state of confusion.

Me   To J. H. Mar 25 2014

Dear J, 

I hope this e-mail finds you well. I know it's been a while since I was last in touch, almost a year! [I contacted her twice, once in 2008 asking her if she could forward to Alice Miller the first email I wrote to Alice Miller and in 2013 asking if she had an e-mail address for Martin Miller because I wanted to write to him!] I have some great news. I've completed the manuscript for my book and am ready to start the publishing process. My goal is to show people how to liberate themselves with Alice Miller's books, just like I did. By telling my story, I'm hoping to introduce Alice Miller to a much large audience, especially in Portugal, so more people can break free from their emotional prisons.  Your writings and website have been very helpful to me on my journey to liberation. I especially enjoyed the articles you translated into Portuguese, which I've shared with everyone I know in Portugal.  ..Anyway, I am writing to see if you'd be willing to write the foreword for my book. You seem to be one of the very few people I know who fully understand Alice Miller’s insights, and it would be a great honor if you'd endorse my project. We've already prepared a foreword as a guideline, which I've included below. You wouldn't have to use it unless you wanted to, but hopefully, it will give you an idea of what we're looking for.  Please let me know if this would be something you'd be willing to do, and if you'd like to see the rest of the manuscript. I would love your feedback and any suggestions you might have on how to improve it. Thank you so much for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Sylvie

J. H.  To Me Mar 25, 2014

Hi Sylvie,

Thank you for the update about your book, and for asking me to write a forward.

Before I reply to that, I want to say that I'm not happy having just gone to your website and discovering our mission statement presented almost verbatim. Please remove it.

Thank you,

J

J H, M.Sc.

j@nch.org T N C P

Me    To J. H. Mar 25 2014

Hi J,

Thank you for writing back. I am so sorry if your mission statement is too close to what I wrote on my website. I did my website by myself and I will be paying a professional to help me create a new website soon. But I will fix it right away and I am sorry for any wrongdoing on my part. I didn't mean to cause you any harm. I do have your website as links I recommend for people to visit. As you can see in the links below:

http://www.sylvieshene.com/new-links.html

And in the Portuguese side I have a link to your translated articles into Portuguese

http://www.sylvieshene.com/Portugues.html

http://www.imeldashene.blogspot.com/

Again I so am sorry if I upset you,

Sylvie

Me To J. H.  Mar 25  2014

Dear J,

I just finished fixing my website Again thank you for your attention and I am so sorry for my mistake. I did not mean to cause you any harm.

Again I am so sorry for any unhappiness I might have caused you. If I had known, I was stepping on your toes, I sure would not have done it. I wrote the words that you say are close to your mission statement many years ago, like I wrote in my first letter to Alice Miller I looked for guidance from others to help me articulate my feelings, and Alice Miller has been the one person in this world that has helped me the most to articulate my feelings, if I was aware I was doing you wrong, I would not have thought to contact you asking you to write a foreword for my book.

I am glad I wrote to you and you made me aware of me having stepped on your toes, and causing you harm, so I could correct it.

I don’t feel comfortable anymore asking you to write a foreword and now I know exactly the person that will be perfect and happy to write me a foreword, I should have asked her in the first place, but I don’t know why I thought of you, but I am glad I did, so all this could come to the surface and be corrected. And it helped me see clearly who would be the right person to write the foreword.

Again I am sorry for troubling you and thank you for your help.

Best wishes,

Sylvie

J. H.   To Me Mar 26 2014

Hi Silvie,

The statement you posted was not just "close", it was nearly verbatim. And since it's our mission statement, which we worked hard to create, we don't want it used anywhere else, not even with our name and link.

I don't see the statement on your site now, but I do see it at http://www.goldenline.pl/grupy/Organizacje_i_stowarzyszenia/koniec-milczenia/sylvie-imelda-shene,1861902/  - I don't have time to look for it on other pages, but please remove it completely from any pages where it was posted. We want our mission statement to have a presence only on our site or in our own correspondence.

We're pretty sensitive to this kind of use, as we recently discovered an Australian parenting book (The Shepherdess) that was almost entirely stolen from my book and articles by me and from other articles on our site.

Can you help us to understand how this sort of thing can happen? In your case, you had to be reading our mission statement, and decided it expressed what you wanted to say on your site. But instead of asking us for permission to quote it, you made a few minor changes, either because you thought you could improve it, or you were worried that we might discover it. Either way, you didn't write it, and it was wrong for you to use it. How did you justify this to yourself? We'd really like to understand that, because it just seems so puzzling, especially for someone who advocates for respectful treatment.

Whether this was carelessness, ignorance of what constitutes plagiarism, or intentional appropriation, the problem I have now is that if I were to write the preface, I would have to read the text with great care, to be sure the book is entirely your own, and I don't have time to do that kind of thorough investigation. So I'll need to pass on this offer.

J

Me   To J H.  Mar 26 2014

 Hi J,

I did not create the webpage in the link you provided above. The author of that page must have taken it from my website years ago and I had no idea. Those pages she shared on her site are no longer available on my site; because I changed my mind about things I wrote in there and I have removed them from my site. I had no idea they were out there. I will be writing to the author asking her to remove it.

Writing is one of the hardest things for me to do in life and I look for help to help me articulate how I feel.

I spent most of my life in isolation afraid of doing or saying the wrong thing. And this experience has reminded me of the pain I suffered as a little girl that could never do or please the adults in my life. 

Now, thanks to Alice Miller's books, I am no longer afraid to take the risk of trying to articulate how I feel the best way I can. Of everyone out there the person that helped me articulate my feelings the best has been Alice Miller and I quote her a lot in my book!!! And I am very cautious that every quote of hers gets credited to her, as you can see in the little example below. I have been working two jobs for the last five years without taking a vacation to pay professional writers to help me articulate my feelings and thoughts. I have spent close to $50,000 to produce my book.  As you can imagine I am a little tired and in much need of a vacation. I hope my hard work will help others liberate themselves from their emotional prisons.

Again I am sorry for all this confusion and I am glad I contacted you so all these could come to the surface and be corrected.

Best wishes,

Sylvie

J. H.   To Me  Mar 26 2014

Hi Sylvie,

I'm glad to see that you are crediting Alice's work

 That said, our need for a clear apology for using our mission statement (which we worked so hard to write 18 years ago) has not been met. May we have one?

Thanks,

J

 J H, M.Sc., Director

N C P

 Counselor | Speaker | Writer

Me   To J H. Mar 26  2014

Dear J,

I am not sure how much more clearly I can be. I apologized to you and I am sorry if my words were too close to your mission statement. This is my last e-mail to you. I am so sorry for all the trouble I caused you and I will be removing all your links from all my sites completely and also from my book that I had a page with Other Valuable Sources and your website was also included.

It would have been nice to have your support, but I see we are not in the same place and not moving in the same direction and I no longer be recommending people to your site.

We can preach to parents all we want about being a loving parent and the benefits of unschooling, but as long the parents' emotions of the child they once were remain repressed, they will be transferring their repressed emotions into their children and others, sooner or later in one form or another, overtly through abuse or covertly under the disguise of help and the mask of love, and the traumas will be reenacted sooner or later in one form or another, if not in this generation in some future generation.

Just because of a few words in my website, it has given you a reason to make me the poison container of your repressed emotions and you showed me how you really were tread as a child -- -- that you were made to feel guilt for minor infractions -- and now you are doing the same thing to me and unconsciously transferring your unresolved guilt into me. 

My book is about facing and feelings our repression and truly become free from the chains of repetition compulsion.

These words from my own book are how I feel about this situation.  Today I’ve removed all the barriers of false morality and am totally free to experience all my feelings, take them seriously and decide who, if anyone, to share them with. I’ve faced my past, as well as my internalized parents and older sisters, and can deal with these things in the context of growing awareness and not on childhood fears. These words by Alice Miller expresses how I exactly feel: “If I allow myself to feel what pains or gladness me, what annoys or enrages me, and why this is the case if I know what I need and what I do not want at all costs. I will know myself well enough to love my life and find it interesting, regardless of age or social status. Then I will hardly feel the need to terminate my life unless the process of aging and the increasing frailty of the body should set off such thoughts in me. But even then I will know that I have lived my own, true life.” 

It’s powerful stuff, and you’ll have a power that will likely be threatening to a lot of people. Society is on the side of the status quo, so be prepared. As Alice Miller writes in Free from Lies, going against the parents “is a source of major alarm for others … They will sometimes mobilize all the forces at their command to discredit the former victim and thus keep their own repression intact.”

I wrote to Alice Miller many times and she visited my sites and she read many things written by me that were very close to things she too had written and she never mentioned it or said anything about it and for sure did not come after me like you are. She could tell I was genuine and that I was not trying to use or harm anyone, but just trying to raise awareness.

At one time I was in a discussion on the amazon forum about spanking, the pro-spanking people try to break me and they did everything possible to trigger me to lose it emotionally, but once you truly have faced and felt your repression you see through people’s games and is not possible to break you anymore. It’s annoying and irritating, but they can’t break me anymore. Anyway, they went as far as writing to Alice Miller complaining to her, that I was abusing her copyright and when I saw it on her website, I felt a fear of maybe angering Alice Miller, but once I started reading her answer you can imagine my relief that Alice Miller stood by my side and was not annoyed that I wrote things close to things she had written and quote long texts of her work.

Here are her exact words:” AM: Thank you for your letter and the link. I opened it and found a discussion led very respectfully by Sylvie Shene who seems to understand much about the dangers of spanking that produce besides other things ignorant parents in the future. Of course, the Internet allows everybody to show themselves, their emotional insights as well as their emotional blindness (like "I was very much beaten but I turned out very well"). But I didn't find an example of anybody using my name for a text that I have NOT written. Did I miss anything? If you did find this kind of abuse, of disrespecting my copyright, please let me know."

Alice Miller has been the only person that truly has been on my side.

Wish you all the best,

Sylvie

Me   To J H Mar 29 2014

Dear J,

This e-mail is just to show you that I am working on getting those pages deleted.

Sylvie

From Facebook message mailbox:

Dear Sabina, I hope this e-mail finds you well. The reason I am writing to you is because it came to my attention, that you copied and pasted some pages from my old website and created the pages in the link below under my name. I know you meant well and you didn't mean to cause me harm, just like I didn’t mean to cause harm to J H, but she is upset with me because she thinks the words I had written on my website were too close to her mission statement from her site, The N C P and wants me to delete them and she sent me the link below, but I can’t delete them, because was not created by me, so do you mind doing me a big favor and delete those pages you created under my name. Thank you and best wishes to you,

 J. H to me Mar 29 2014

Sylvie

“Thank you for the quick reply and apology. The statement you posted was not just "close", it was nearly verbatim. And since it's our mission statement, which we worked hard to create, we don't want it used anywhere else, not even with our name and link.

I don't see the statement on your site now, but I do see it at http://www.goldenline.pl/grupy/Organizacje_i_stowarzyszenia/koniec-milczenia/sylvie-imelda-shene,1861902/   I don't have time to look for it on other pages, but please remove it completely from any pages where it was posted. We want our mission statement to have a presence only on our site or in our own correspondence.”

Hi Sylvie, I cannot delete it now by myself because I am not the administrator of this group, but I will write to him and ask to delete it. Sabina

(I have not been able to have these pages deleted. I wrote to Sabina that created them and she says is not in control anymore of the site and can’t delete them, but it's hard for me to believe that she cannot delete these pages if she was the one to create these pages under my name. I also wrote to the site management asking them to delete these pages, but no one got back to me and even went to the trouble to translate my messages into Polish.” So I don’t know what else to do to have these pages deleted! 

J H  To Me  Mar 27  2014

I am on your side. I am very unhappy about your childhood. No one deserves that. All I wanted was a simple, straightforward admission, and apology for doing that. I haven't received that yet.  Writing something that is "close" to someone else's words is a slippery slope to plagiarism. If Alice didn't object, either the words weren't really that close, or she just missed it. She was always extremely busy, writing and editing her current manuscript, and her memory was fading in her later years. But she was livid whenever she discovered that someone had taken advantage of her in any way - it was a side of her that very few knew about.

 I didn't ask you to remove the links in your website or book. Please feel free to include them if you think it will be helpful to your readers.

I hope that's helpful.

J

Below is a link to the Facebook post that triggered this blog and the sharing of J. H. emails full of poison. 
https://www.facebook.com/sylne/posts/10157953268253922?comment_id=10158149782263922&reply_comment_id=10158151393728922&notif_id=1612878426262544&notif_t=feed_comment&ref=notif

 

 

 

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