These
words by Alice Miller go right to the heart! Yes, the amnesia of politicians or leaders of sects does afflict countless people. As we are witnessing how #DonaldTrump's amnesia of his childhood repression is hurting many! "Kafka was hardly aware of
the fact that the main sources of his imagination were deeply hidden in his
early childhood. Most writers aren't. But the amnesia of an artist or writer,
though sometimes a burden for their body, doesn't have any negative
consequences for society. The readers simply admire the work and are rarely
interested in the writers' infancy. However, the amnesia of politicians or
leaders of sects does afflict countless people, and will continue to do so, as
long as society remains blind to the important connections between the denial
of traumatic experiences in early childhood and the destructive, criminal
actions of individuals.”
http://www.alice-miller.com/articles_en.php?lang=en&nid=41&grp=11
This blog is about learning to understand all of our feelings and learning to consciously face, feel and experience all of our feelings within the context of our own childhood. Everything we become and happens to us is connected to childhood. Not every victim becomes an abuser, but every abuser was once a victim of abuse, these are facts, Violence is not genetic, it’s learned. https://sylvieshene.blogspot.com/2014/08/a-dance-to-freedom-book-reviews.html
Thursday, December 26, 2013
Wednesday, December 18, 2013
Watchdogs
You're afraid ... so afraid of loneliness ... to point you into the arms of slavery.
It is true that the younger ages are conducive to blackmail. Since any alleged education is after all, a common training. We do everything for our children to reproduce the same designs ... the same figures ... even the pure reason.
Remember the first injunction or you give yourself or we'll give you up. You have the choice between servitude or solitude. We must submit or cease to be ... we are all here, to reproduce the same mechanism , authoritarian , safe, sectarian .
Woe to him who rebels or escapes ... he will be left to himself , neglected , ignored or mocked by all.
You were taught to be servile, you were ordered to serve, to suffer the most coercive for emotional security measures. It is not only to obey the order, but it is mainly to reproduce it. Unchanged. Of copy-pasted not to let go.
No ... you're not yourself. You are what was made of you ... one that looks like all the others.
Pale copy of an old model.
The same monkey which learns the same grimaces and falls in love with the same female monkeys.
Same universe where you must go through the same galleys ... because freedom is a little bit too expensive ... loneliness, anguish and decay.
Why I redo the story ?
Because you always have stubbornly to be right ... and do you know why?
Because you're like everyone else, unable to hear any reason other than yours because like everyone you know, you do not know it is not yours.
This is the reason of your teachers and your ancestors that you seek to impose on everyone, you are only a watchdog that ensures and monitors the reason for his master... being confident that it is his.
To be a man or free woman is not trying to be right but to know the reasons of others.
Alone and free instead of being chained to the same rock, that of a society that is afraid to live and afraid to die ...
http://www.lejournaldepersonne.com/2013/04/les-chiens-de-garde/
It is true that the younger ages are conducive to blackmail. Since any alleged education is after all, a common training. We do everything for our children to reproduce the same designs ... the same figures ... even the pure reason.
Remember the first injunction or you give yourself or we'll give you up. You have the choice between servitude or solitude. We must submit or cease to be ... we are all here, to reproduce the same mechanism , authoritarian , safe, sectarian .
Woe to him who rebels or escapes ... he will be left to himself , neglected , ignored or mocked by all.
You were taught to be servile, you were ordered to serve, to suffer the most coercive for emotional security measures. It is not only to obey the order, but it is mainly to reproduce it. Unchanged. Of copy-pasted not to let go.
No ... you're not yourself. You are what was made of you ... one that looks like all the others.
Pale copy of an old model.
The same monkey which learns the same grimaces and falls in love with the same female monkeys.
Same universe where you must go through the same galleys ... because freedom is a little bit too expensive ... loneliness, anguish and decay.
Why I redo the story ?
Because you always have stubbornly to be right ... and do you know why?
Because you're like everyone else, unable to hear any reason other than yours because like everyone you know, you do not know it is not yours.
This is the reason of your teachers and your ancestors that you seek to impose on everyone, you are only a watchdog that ensures and monitors the reason for his master... being confident that it is his.
To be a man or free woman is not trying to be right but to know the reasons of others.
Alone and free instead of being chained to the same rock, that of a society that is afraid to live and afraid to die ...
http://www.lejournaldepersonne.com/2013/04/les-chiens-de-garde/
Tuesday, December 3, 2013
Plenty of Traditional Old Traps on the Internet
AM: Certainly, if I knew of some therapists who would be respectful enough to answer your questions; free enough to show indignation about what your parents have done to you; empathic enough when you need to release your rage pent up for decades in your body; wise enough to not preach to you forgetting, forgiveness, meditation, positive thinking; honest enough to not offer you empty words like spirituality, when they feel scared by your history, and that are not increasing your life-long feelings of guilt – I would be happy to give you their names, addresses and phone-numbers.
Unfortunately, I don’t know them, but I still like to hope that they exist. However, when I am looking for them on the Internet I find plenty of esoteric and religious offers, plenty of denial, commercial interests, traditional traps, but not at all what I am looking for. For that reason I gave you with my FAQ list tools for your own research. If a therapist refuses to answer your questions right from the start, you can be sure that by leaving him you can save yourself your time and your money. If you don’t dare to ask your questions out of your fear of your parents, your fear may be highly understandable. However, trying to do it anyway may be useful because your questions are important and by daring to ask them you can only win.
6- I talk so much about the “topic” of child abuse because it is essential and nobody else teaches about this topic in universities. It is still taboo although childhood is the base of the whole life, and the ignorance on this issue is very dangerous for all societies on our planet."
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Saturday, November 30, 2013
Questioning the family
Me too, like Alice Miller I am doing all I can to make it
visible and enlightening parents, so the family institution becomes a safe
place for children, because children need a mother and a father. No, we don’t
need more nice words and books written by well intentional authors that write
feel good books that are just like medications or drugs that makes us feel good
temporarily, but disguise the psychological facts of childhood trauma. Like for
example just came to mind the book Chicken Soup for the Soul that is a number
one best seller! I could use so many other examples, they are endless! People
are suckers for feel good words and a lot of people are more than willing to
take advantage of this people’s weakness to get rich and make a name for
themselves by recycling the same old seductive feel good traditional traps. We need
books that helps us deal with the facts and reality.
Questioning the family
“You write: “In the traditional family the children belong
to their parents, who have legal power over them. The children are isolated
from the rest of society; they have to respect their parents, regardless of
what the parents actually do, they have to obey their parents and to be loyal
towards them. And the parents, often with the help of the state, can do almost
everything to subdue their children; they can use the whole range of physical
and mental tortures against their children.”
You certainly are right but why shouldn't we be able to
change the patterns of the family instead of rejecting family altogether? And
what do you suggest instead of the institution family? A child needs a mother
and a father, but of course they don't need the hypocrisy, the abuse, the
exploitation and the terror. We must work on enlightening parents so that
families become the place of safety, truth, love and honest communication. We
can't do this by writing nice words but by informing parents that they disguise
the brutality they endured as children by denying it and repeating it
carelessly on their children. In this way they protect their parents and
produce violent people, again and again. I agree with you that families based
on this system are the source of violence in our society and I do what I can to
make this visible.” Alice Miller ~ From Rage to Courage, page, 75 and 76
Read more HEREWednesday, November 20, 2013
Dependency Breeds Hatred
Thank you for writing and sharing your story with me. I am sorry the child
you once were lived with so much terror and has caused a painful witness in
your body that is affecting your health and causing you to lose your
autonomy. I am so sorry. I can understand your fantasy that
primal therapy would liberate you from your repressed emotions and therefore heal
your body and start on the road to autonomy, but I don’t think primal or any
other therapy will help at the moment. Having someone who understands
your situation and you can talk freely about all of your feelings with will be
much more helpful. If you really like to find an enlightened witness follow the
guidance of Alice Miller how to find the right therapist on her website. Your
situation is very complicated and painful, because as long we remain dependent
on those who were the cause of our painful plight, the latent rage of the
child will not start to diminish, but actually accumulate. The words below by
Alice Miller from her article “What’s Hatred?” are very true: “a person we are
at the mercy of and either cannot free ourselves of, or at least believe that
we cannot. As long as we are in such a state of dependency, or think we are,
then hatred is the inevitable outcome. It is hardly conceivable that a person
being tortured will not feel hatred for the torturer. If we deny ourselves this
feeling, we will suffer from physical symptoms.” http://www.alice-miller.com/en/what-is-hatred/
This is why MM is still stuck in his hatred for his mother because he is still emotionally dependent on his mother and also dependent on her money and using her to make money for himself. He is trying to make a name for himself by unconsciously in a symbolic way killing his mother with his book to free himself, but these are fantasies of a small child and we never achieve true freedom by allowing the wounded child’s fantasies dictate our present actions, but actually will keep us stuck and strengthening the walls of our emotional prison leaving very little chance of ever escaping our childhood emotional prison.
So my suggestion to you is to find someone you can talk with freely about all of your authentic feelings and help you clarify and consciously feel all of your feelings within the context of your childhood and focus on improving your physical health. Also, look for resources you might have to help you gain autonomy how slow or little might be, baby steps is better than not taking any steps at all. I wish you much luck, courage, and strength on your journey.
http://sylvieshene.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-risks-of-primal-therapy.html
Here is another blog about primal therapy.
Read Alice's article at the bottom.
http://sylvieshene.blogspot.com/2013/10/neve-put-your-life-in-someone-elses.html
This is why MM is still stuck in his hatred for his mother because he is still emotionally dependent on his mother and also dependent on her money and using her to make money for himself. He is trying to make a name for himself by unconsciously in a symbolic way killing his mother with his book to free himself, but these are fantasies of a small child and we never achieve true freedom by allowing the wounded child’s fantasies dictate our present actions, but actually will keep us stuck and strengthening the walls of our emotional prison leaving very little chance of ever escaping our childhood emotional prison.
So my suggestion to you is to find someone you can talk with freely about all of your authentic feelings and help you clarify and consciously feel all of your feelings within the context of your childhood and focus on improving your physical health. Also, look for resources you might have to help you gain autonomy how slow or little might be, baby steps is better than not taking any steps at all. I wish you much luck, courage, and strength on your journey.
Sylvie
P.S. fell free to write back and let me know what kind of feelings my
words above triggered in you.
Also here is one of my blogs about the risks of primal therapy.http://sylvieshene.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-risks-of-primal-therapy.html
Here is another blog about primal therapy.
Read Alice's article at the bottom.
http://sylvieshene.blogspot.com/2013/10/neve-put-your-life-in-someone-elses.html
Thursday, November 14, 2013
The Assassination of President Kennedy
This month is the 50 years anniversary of the assassination of President Kennedy and Steven Beschloss shows in his book: “The Gunman and His Mother: Lee Harvey Oswald, Marguerite Oswald, and the Making of an Assassin” how dangerous can be when we bring children into the world before we are ready to really love and protect. When women have children before are ready psychologically, emotionally and physically to have children is like playing Russian roulette, just like Alice Miller says: “We never know how a child will and must react to the injustice he or she has suffered,” some become great manipulators, rapists, assassins, sadists and some psychopaths, etc. And because of this, we should do all we can to prevent bringing more traumatized children into the world in the first place, because trauma is so hard to heal, especially once a person has become a teenager or an adult and the powerful enablers in our society don’t help. Every child born needs to be planned, wanted and truly loved.
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Thursday, November 7, 2013
The System of Lies
I have left the system of lies! And yes as long as people continue to
believe in lies, the body will continue to scream louder and louder for the
truth with the help of symptoms.
“It is rather surprising that a woman of your profession has the
courage to leave, at least partially, the system of denial and open the eyes
for the truth of her childhood after having read a book. There are millions of
people in your position who never find the courage to do so and to question the
lies they have been told early in their lives.
You ask me how you can connect
with your father. Why should you? Everybody tells you that you must forgive.
But you must not - if you want to heal. You can't fool the body; it doesn't let
itself be fooled. And it remembers everything, the butcher’s knife, the soup
cans from the garbage, the beatings and so many other cruelties suffered by a
small girl from a highly perverse man. Why do you jeopardize your health by
thinking of your father's childhood? If a man raped you on the street would you
speculate about his childhood or would you become furious? The last would be a
healthy reaction. Why is your father an exception? Because God is on his side?
Who told you this? The body didn't read the bible, it insists on the truth and
the small girl would have done it also if she had been allowed to see the
truth. But nobody was there to tell her: you were treated cruelly and have the
right to hate him. Unfortunately, you seem to continue to betray your body,
yourself, by killing your authentic feelings. In fact, it is exactly the rage
that can help you now to heal.
The method of Marshall Rosenberg
is very nice and may be helpful to people who have not be severely mistreated
in childhood. The latter ones however must find their pent up, LEGITIMATE rage
and free themselves from the lies of our moral system. As long as they don't do
this, their body will continue to scream for the truth with the help of symptoms.”
Alice Miller ~ From Rage to Courage, page, 53
Monday, October 14, 2013
Never put your life in someone else's hands
Never put your life in someone else’s hands, it can very dangerous. As children, we had no choice and our lives were in the hands of our parents and caregivers, but now we are adults and we must be in charge of our own lives, if we still have an inner wounded child inside of us, the adult in us has to be the one paying attention and listen to our wounded child and if we need help understanding our feelings, we need to look for an enlightened and sympathetic witness to help us understand and experience all of our feelings within the context of our own childhood.
NEVER, allow people symbolizing your parents take charge of your life and make decisions for you or make another adult your substitute parent and let her/him regress you to the wounded child you once were because that is putting you in a position of being controlled and manipulated by another person, just like when you were a little child and can be very dangerous to your mental and physical health and well-being.
An example is the followers of the secret by James Arthur Ray, he symbolizing their parents/caretakers and the followers “the good children” follow his directions without question it and two paid the price with their lives for this mistake. Read more about this sad tragic story here
Another example is Tony Robbins with his TV program “Breakthrough” he like many gurus out there is taking advantage and exploiting emotionally blind people and putting people’s well-being in danger, a few years ago I was going through the TV channels and Tony Robbins’s show “breakthrough” was on and he had this emotionally blind woman sleeping outside with the homeless, so she would have the experience of having nothing and in this way she was supposed to get over her depression and make her grateful for the things she has, how sad that this grown person puts her life in this guru’s hands and allows him to regress her to the helpless lost child she once was and exploit her just like her parents did when she was a little defenseless child.
I am amazed at the amount of smart and intelligent people who fall for seductive words by charismatic people like Tony Robbins. Just like Alice Miller says in her book “For Your Own Good: Hidden cruelty in child-rearing and the roots of violence.” “… We have seen how easy it is for intellectuals in a dictatorship to be corrupted, it would be a vestige of aristocratic snobbery to think that only “the uneducated masses” are susceptible to propaganda. Both Hitler and Stalin had a surprisingly large number of enthusiastic followers among intellectuals. Our capacity to resist has nothing to do with our intelligence but with the degree of access to our true self. Indeed, intelligence is capable of innumerable rationalizations when it comes to the matter of adaptation.”
NEVER, allow people symbolizing your parents take charge of your life and make decisions for you or make another adult your substitute parent and let her/him regress you to the wounded child you once were because that is putting you in a position of being controlled and manipulated by another person, just like when you were a little child and can be very dangerous to your mental and physical health and well-being.
An example is the followers of the secret by James Arthur Ray, he symbolizing their parents/caretakers and the followers “the good children” follow his directions without question it and two paid the price with their lives for this mistake. Read more about this sad tragic story here
Another example is Tony Robbins with his TV program “Breakthrough” he like many gurus out there is taking advantage and exploiting emotionally blind people and putting people’s well-being in danger, a few years ago I was going through the TV channels and Tony Robbins’s show “breakthrough” was on and he had this emotionally blind woman sleeping outside with the homeless, so she would have the experience of having nothing and in this way she was supposed to get over her depression and make her grateful for the things she has, how sad that this grown person puts her life in this guru’s hands and allows him to regress her to the helpless lost child she once was and exploit her just like her parents did when she was a little defenseless child.
I am amazed at the amount of smart and intelligent people who fall for seductive words by charismatic people like Tony Robbins. Just like Alice Miller says in her book “For Your Own Good: Hidden cruelty in child-rearing and the roots of violence.” “… We have seen how easy it is for intellectuals in a dictatorship to be corrupted, it would be a vestige of aristocratic snobbery to think that only “the uneducated masses” are susceptible to propaganda. Both Hitler and Stalin had a surprisingly large number of enthusiastic followers among intellectuals. Our capacity to resist has nothing to do with our intelligence but with the degree of access to our true self. Indeed, intelligence is capable of innumerable rationalizations when it comes to the matter of adaptation.”
One more example is religion; religion/god symbolizing the all-powerful parent and the followers permanently trapped in the role of the child. Our goal is to free ourselves from all illusions, become autonomous adults and stand on our own two feet without crutches.
Also in her book Paths of Life, Alice Miller says: "MANY PROBLEMS APPEAR in a new light when we look to childhood as a source of possible explanations. We are living in an age in which democracies are gaining the upper hand over dictatorships. At the same time, the cult-group phenomenon is an indication that there is a growth in the number of totalitarian systems to which people voluntarily submit themselves. People growing up in a spirit of liberty and tolerance, accepted in childhood for what they are, rather than being throttled and stunted by their upbringing, would hardly place themselves at the mercy of a cult group of their own accord. And if by chance or skillful manipulation, they did fall afoul of such an organization, they certainly would not stay there very long.
...In my view, however, this allegedly conscious exploitation can also be traced back to unconscious motives. Terrible as the consequences were, I do not believe, for example, that the two initiators of “feeling therapy,” discussed earlier, actually set out to establish a totalitarian regime. It was the power they gained over their adherents that made them into gurus. And this is what I have in mind when I refer to the unconscious aspects of manipulation. In the end, they themselves become the victims of a process with an inexorable logic of its own, a process they were unaware of because they had never given it any thought.
Also in the article below Alice Miller articulates very well the dangers of re-birth therapy.
Also in her book Paths of Life, Alice Miller says: "MANY PROBLEMS APPEAR in a new light when we look to childhood as a source of possible explanations. We are living in an age in which democracies are gaining the upper hand over dictatorships. At the same time, the cult-group phenomenon is an indication that there is a growth in the number of totalitarian systems to which people voluntarily submit themselves. People growing up in a spirit of liberty and tolerance, accepted in childhood for what they are, rather than being throttled and stunted by their upbringing, would hardly place themselves at the mercy of a cult group of their own accord. And if by chance or skillful manipulation, they did fall afoul of such an organization, they certainly would not stay there very long.
...In my view, however, this allegedly conscious exploitation can also be traced back to unconscious motives. Terrible as the consequences were, I do not believe, for example, that the two initiators of “feeling therapy,” discussed earlier, actually set out to establish a totalitarian regime. It was the power they gained over their adherents that made them into gurus. And this is what I have in mind when I refer to the unconscious aspects of manipulation. In the end, they themselves become the victims of a process with an inexorable logic of its own, a process they were unaware of because they had never given it any thought.
Thus they sparked off a conflagration they were unable to control, much less extinguish. First, they had learned how to reduce people to the emotional state of the helpless child. Once they had achieved that, they also learned how to use unconscious regression to exercise total control over their victims. From then on, what they did seemed to come automatically, in accordance, with the child-rearing patterns instilled into them in their own childhood. "
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Also in the article below Alice Miller articulates very well the dangers of re-birth therapy.
CONCERNING PRIMAL SELF-THERAPY
I am frequently asked what I consider to be the decisive factor in psychotherapy today. Is it the recognition of the truth, liberation from the enforced vow of silence and from idealization of one's parents, or is it the presence of an Enlightened Witness? My view is that it is not a question of either-or but of both-and. Without the Enlightened Witness it is impossible to bear the truth of what happened to us in early infancy. But by the term Enlightened Witness I do not mean anyone who has studied psychology or has been through primal experiences with a guru and has remained in his thrall. For me, Enlightened Witnesses are therapists with the courage to face up to their own histories and to gain their autonomy in doing so, rather than seeking to offset their own repressed feelings of ineffectuality by exerting power over their patients.
The adult needs assistance in coping with the present situations as an adult, while at the same time maintaining contact with the suffering and knowing child he once was, the child he could not muster the courage to listen to for so long but now, with help, can finally pay heed to. The body knows everything that has happened to it but it has no language to express that knowledge. It is like the child we once were, the child that sees all but without the aid of the adults remains helpless and alone. Accordingly, whenever the emotions from the past rise to the surface they are invariably accompanied by the fears of the helpless child, dependent on the understanding or at least the reassurances of the caregivers.
Unlike the body, our cognitive system knows little of the events far back in the past; conscious memories are fragmentary, brittle, unreliable. But the cognitive system has a huge fund of knowledge at its disposal, a fully developed mind, and the life experience a child cannot yet have. As adults are no longer powerless, they can offer the child within them (the body) protection and an attentive ear so that it can express itself in its own way and tell its own story. It is in the light of these stories that the looming, incomprehensible fears and emotions of the adult take on meaning. Finally, they stand in a recognizable context and are no longer so obscurely menacing.
In a society, with a receptive attitude to the distress of children, no one will be alone with his/her history. The same is true of therapists. Because then everyone will know that it is not the children who are responsible for their sufferings but the adults.
I recently wrote a letter in French to the forum that I am quoting in English below:
Dear Franck, I understand well your fascination for the manual of Stettbacher. When I read this manuscript in 1989 I thought that it contained the solution for a lot of readers who, after having read my books, were looking, like you, for the sources of their sufferings and fears in the history of their childhood. As I had never had the luck to be understood and helped in my childhood nor in my therapies (it was always me who had to help others) I found the idea of a primal self - therapy at first quite normal and acceptable. It is after some years that I grasped the big importance and even necessity of an enlightened and empathic therapist in the process of recovery. Especially thanks to letters of people that failed to help themselves and who blamed themselves for their plight ( trying to do more and more therapy and turning around alone with their fears and pains) that I understood that the primal self - therapy can indeed trigger easily the old pent-up emotions but can reactivate the situation of the child that was always alone with his/her pains and fears. This repetition of the old trauma is the opposite of a therapy.
Today, I share the opinion of Arthur Janov who always affirmed, that primal therapy without the assistance of a well informed and compassionate therapist can be very dangerous. (cf. his homepage). In addition, I think that it contains (1) a contradiction in itself by reactivating a situation of which one want to get rid of and (2) a perpetuation of the violence directed toward oneself.
I don't have any contact with Mister Stettbacher since 1994 when I stopped to recommend his method but I suppose that the information on its negative effects reached him too and that it already motivated him to stop recommending it. Since the release of his book there is a lot of new information on this topic available that are easily accessible thanks to the internet. Maybe, a next book by Stettbacher will bring the necessary corrections to his present work, published 12 years ago.
Alice Miller
Saturday, October 12, 2013
The Tragedy Begins With the Mother
Totally! The tragedy begins with the mother and until the feminists can see this painful truth, they will never be able to stop the vicious cycle of some men taking revenge on other women for the wrongs their mothers did to them when they were defenseless little children.
"Thank you for your letter, I am so glad for you that you have widely open eyes and have the courage to check the courage of the therapists you are talking to so that you will not become a victim of illusions. You can check 20 of them, probably you will get the same answers, full of avoidance but maybe you will find eventually somebody who will answer your questions honestly. If not you learned a lot, and you can benefit from this experience. Concerning the feminist therapists I agree with you completely. I wrote already 30 yours ago that females can abuse their babies, infants and small children with a total impunity, nobody controls them. They can take on their children all the humiliations they suffered from men in our society. Later, their sons who "love" their mothers can transfer their rage onto their daughters or other women or make war and rape women but still adore, defend, and respect their mothers because what they suffered as small children stays unconscious, totally repressed. And many of us seem to need for a long time the illusion of having had a wonderful mother. You are right, the tragedy begins with the mother that is protected by all societies and honored in most religions as the innocent sainte. In German exist already some books that broke with this taboo but for the English publications you must look at Google. The book by Bass and Davis is very helpful for victims of sexual child abuse but unfortunately the authors who are feminists write that only very few women abuse children. That is absolutely not true. There are apparently also women pedophile who live with boys of 10 to 12 year old and say that this is (for them!!!) a beautiful " relationship". Not to be aware of using children to revenge the own trama and ruining their lives is not only the atitude of men but of both genders as long as child abuse remains an issue avoided by the whole ignorant society." Alice Miller
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"Thank you for your letter, I am so glad for you that you have widely open eyes and have the courage to check the courage of the therapists you are talking to so that you will not become a victim of illusions. You can check 20 of them, probably you will get the same answers, full of avoidance but maybe you will find eventually somebody who will answer your questions honestly. If not you learned a lot, and you can benefit from this experience. Concerning the feminist therapists I agree with you completely. I wrote already 30 yours ago that females can abuse their babies, infants and small children with a total impunity, nobody controls them. They can take on their children all the humiliations they suffered from men in our society. Later, their sons who "love" their mothers can transfer their rage onto their daughters or other women or make war and rape women but still adore, defend, and respect their mothers because what they suffered as small children stays unconscious, totally repressed. And many of us seem to need for a long time the illusion of having had a wonderful mother. You are right, the tragedy begins with the mother that is protected by all societies and honored in most religions as the innocent sainte. In German exist already some books that broke with this taboo but for the English publications you must look at Google. The book by Bass and Davis is very helpful for victims of sexual child abuse but unfortunately the authors who are feminists write that only very few women abuse children. That is absolutely not true. There are apparently also women pedophile who live with boys of 10 to 12 year old and say that this is (for them!!!) a beautiful " relationship". Not to be aware of using children to revenge the own trama and ruining their lives is not only the atitude of men but of both genders as long as child abuse remains an issue avoided by the whole ignorant society." Alice Miller
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Friday, September 27, 2013
Real Love Faces and Feels the Truth no Matter How Much it Hurts
If we can’t face and feel our own truth we can’t genuinely love and this is why I am alone, because I will not get involved intimately with anyone that is not living with his own truth, most people can't face and feel their own painful truths and I don't settle, I never have and never will. I want people on my side that can face up to their own personal truth and can genuinely love and no longer looking unconscious and compulsively for scapegoats to alleviate their disassociated repressed feelings.
“Turning away from the truth will never help us preserve love, and the love we have for our parents is no exception. The fact of forgiveness will not help as long as it serves to disguise the facts. For love and self-delusion are mutually exclusive. The disavowal of truth, the denial of the suffering we have been through, is the breeding ground for the kind of hatred that gets deflected onto innocent victims. It is an act of self-deception and an impasse from which there is no way out. Genuine love can face up to the truth.” Alice Miller ~Paths of Life, Page, 186
An animal will respond to attack with “fight or flight.” Neither course is open to an infant exposed to aggression from immediate family members. Thus the natural reaction remain pent up, sometimes for decades, until it can be taken out on a weaker object.” Alice Miller ~ Paths of Life, page 156 and 157
“In the recent past, young people have gone into the streets to demonstrate for all kinds of good causes, against war, for protection of the environment, and above all for more humanity. But there have never been any demonstrations supporting the rights of children not to be beaten by their caregivers. Why not? I wonder. Why have we been so slow to realize that many of the instances of violence that we campaign have their sources in the cradle and the playroom? And that we can prevent further acts of violence only by condemning that first devastating experience of violence right at the beginning of a child’s life?” Alice Miller ~ Paths of Life, page, 185
“Like any other form of exploitation practiced on children, sexual abuse may be accepted by the child as a kind of surrogate emotional nourishment if it has been starved of any other kind of affection. A child craving love, warmth, and protection may even avidly accept not only sexual interference but also blows, vilifications, and exaggerated demands if the only alternative is being rejected and abandoned altogether. I feel it is important for us not only to recognize and understand the illusion of infancy but also as adults to learn from the consequences of them. The denial of childhood suffering has far-reaching effects which are not limited to private life but also play an operative role in major political upheavals and crises.” Alice Miller ~ Paths of Life, page, 152
"For political leaders in the Hitler mold, the jubilation of the masses is as indispensable to still their effective craving as a drug is for an addict. The millions of cheering supporters do not realize that they are needed for the purpose and that purpose alone." Alice Miller ~ Paths of Life, page, 146
“but the unconscious memories drives them to reproduce those repressed scenes over and over again in the vain attempt to liberate themselves from the fears that cruelty and abuse have left with them. Some victims create situations in which they can assume the active role in order to master the feelings of helplessness and escape the unconscious anxieties. But this liberation is a specious one because the effects of the past don’t change as long as they remain unnoticed. Repeatedly the perpetrator will go in search of new victims. As long as one projects hatred and fear onto scapegoats, there is no way of coming to terms with these feelings. Not until the cause has been recognized and the natural reaction to wrongdoing understood can the blind hatred wreaked on innocent victims be dissipated. The function it performs, that of masking the truth, is no longer necessary. There is evidence, as I cite in my preface, that sex criminals who have worked through their lives in therapy may no longer run the risk of destructive reenactment of their traumas.
But what is hatred? As I see it, it is a possible consequence of rage and despair that cannot be consciously felt by a child who has been neglected and maltreated even before he or she has learned to speak. As long the anger directed at a parent or other first caregiver remains unconscious or disavowed, it cannot be dissipated. It can be taken out only on oneself or stand-ins, on scapegoats such as one’s own children or alleged enemies. The variety of hatred that masquerades as righteous ideological zeal is particularly dangerous because its imperviousness to moral categories makes it unassailable. Sympathetic observations of the cries of an infant brings home forcibly to the onlooker how intense feelings involved must be. The hatred can finally work as a life-saving defense against the life-threatening powerlessness. An animal will respond to attack with “fight or flight.” Neither course is open to an infant exposed to aggression from immediate family members. Thus the natural reaction remain pent up, sometimes for decades, until it can be taken out on a weaker object.” Alice Miller ~ Paths of Life, page 156 and 157
Thursday, September 26, 2013
The Pain of a Mother
Any person that has truly faced and felt her/his own repression is genuinely compassionate and understanding towards others, even if we have to walk away from people that can’t bear to face and feel their own repression to protect ourselves from being used as their scapegoat or poisons container to unconsciously alleviate their own repression. In the excerpt below from the preface of Paths of Life you get a window to see the pain of Alice Miller from not having come into her insights in time to make a difference in the life of her older child and how she felt the need to share with prospective young parents the insights she discovers later in life and wished she had when she was a younger mother, so they don’t make the same mistake she did.
Of course, I have compassion for her son that is in the same boat as most of the people in the rest of the world of having to find the courage to face and feel his own repression, if he truly wants to break free and I have compassion for Alice Miller that suffer in her childhood like most people in the world and the terrible pain she suffered as an adult when she realized that she had hurt her own child by not standing up to her husband and defend her child from his abusive father.
I am not a mother, but I feel this has to be one of the worst pain for a mother or father to feel that we hurt our own child and that he is stuck in an emotional prison or time capsule because of what we did or not did when they were defenseless little infants and this is why most parents deny the truth to protect themselves from feeling this intense pain, and this is why I never had children, because I could feel I did not have what was needed to raise a conscious human being and that I would not be able to bear the pain of hurting a child I brought into the world, but I am very grateful Alice found the courage and strength to feel her pain and became honest with herself and owned up to her mistakes as a young mother and worked very hard to write her books to warn the rest of the world of the consequences of childhood repression, most parents can never own up to their mistakes towards their children no matter how much evidence we put in front of them and go on blaming the children and unconsciously and compulsively use them and others endless to alleviate their own repression.
I often tell people, "If you want to know my definition of hell, it's having children and thinking there is such a thing as a good parent. You' 11 spend a good deal of your life being depressed, because it's a hard job. It's an important job, and repeatedly we're going to do things we wished we hadn't done. www.nataliabravo.net
Of course, I have compassion for her son that is in the same boat as most of the people in the rest of the world of having to find the courage to face and feel his own repression, if he truly wants to break free and I have compassion for Alice Miller that suffer in her childhood like most people in the world and the terrible pain she suffered as an adult when she realized that she had hurt her own child by not standing up to her husband and defend her child from his abusive father.
I am not a mother, but I feel this has to be one of the worst pain for a mother or father to feel that we hurt our own child and that he is stuck in an emotional prison or time capsule because of what we did or not did when they were defenseless little infants and this is why most parents deny the truth to protect themselves from feeling this intense pain, and this is why I never had children, because I could feel I did not have what was needed to raise a conscious human being and that I would not be able to bear the pain of hurting a child I brought into the world, but I am very grateful Alice found the courage and strength to feel her pain and became honest with herself and owned up to her mistakes as a young mother and worked very hard to write her books to warn the rest of the world of the consequences of childhood repression, most parents can never own up to their mistakes towards their children no matter how much evidence we put in front of them and go on blaming the children and unconsciously and compulsively use them and others endless to alleviate their own repression.
As Alice Miller says: “As I’ve aged, I’ve grown more tolerant and patient; I find it easier to wait and let people take the time they need to follow my trains of thought. What helped me to become accommodating was the fact that in contrast to twenty years ago, I no longer feel alone in what I know. Since then, both experts and lay people have been able to confirm my conclusions by their own experiences. I no longer have to prove anything.
And yet I still feel a need to share with others things that came to me only late in life. The result does not claim to be literature, we are not dealing here with “art for art.” For my stories are actually based on simple, conscious intentions to inform people and encourage them to think. For me, as for many women, it was very painful to realize that as a young mother I had missed so much, not only for my child but also for myself, simply because I did not know enough. It hurts to see how with more information many things could have turned out better and that much cannot be made good again. My stories arose from the wish to spare other people what I have suffered myself.” Alice Miller ~ Paths of Life, preface
The quote by Marshall Rosenberg in the link below is so true.
The quote by Marshall Rosenberg in the link below is so true.
I often tell people, "If you want to know my definition of hell, it's having children and thinking there is such a thing as a good parent. You' 11 spend a good deal of your life being depressed, because it's a hard job. It's an important job, and repeatedly we're going to do things we wished we hadn't done. www.nataliabravo.net
Marshall Rosenberg (1934 - 2015)
Also, read The Courage of Alice Miller Was Astonishing
The Courage of Alice Miller Was Astonishing
P: I just read the first article and I think the whole debate about whether she failed her son is absurd because when he was small his mother was not fully aware of how abusive education can be. She was a traditional mother like anybody else, and as a therapist, she followed the traditional Freudian psychoanalysis of her time....only when she found out that this type of therapy does not really solve the problem but intensifies it, did she start developing her own, very different theory....but by that was not until 1970, resulting in her first book, the drama, in 1979...by that time her son was about 30 years old, so how could she protect him from a violent father??? So this criticism is bloody BS!!”
Hi P,Thank you for writing. I completely agree with everything you wrote. This comment made by Makus Roth in the article sent to me is so true: “Alice Miller's life cycle is comparable to the conversion of Sau to Paul, from the unconscious to the conscious mother. when she wrote the first of her 13 books (drama dbk= Das Drama de begabten Kiindes, The drama of the gifted child), 1979, when her son was already 29 years old and she kept on developing every time clearer and clearer. Already years ago she apologized to her son for her misbehavior in his childhood, whereas her son had and still has trouble with it.” Makus Roth
I feel Alice Miller’s experience is very similar to mine. My love for my ex and my desire to help him made me look for help so we could save our relationship and in the process I freed myself.
Alice Miller too saw that her son had problems, and how ironic they both have the same name, my ex’s name is also Martin! Alice Miller, like me, started lifting every stone to look for clues to help her son and in the process resolved her own repression and freed herself, just like me, that I went out looking for clues on how to help my Ex and I ended up liberating myself in the process.
And at the end, I had to let my ex go, and Alice too had to let her son go because once a person is an adult, no one, not even the mother, can make up for what we need as children and we didn’t get.
Once we are adults only we can save ourselves and anyone that tells us otherwise is fooling us with false hopes and promises.
Alice Miller was driven to write her books to warn society of the dangers of childhood repression to save the children of the future and help us to face and resolve our own repression.
This is why it’s so important for people to face their own repression before having children or at least become aware of their own childhood repression before their children become teenagers and adults, because it’s not the trauma itself that causes long-term damage, but the repressed emotions caused by trauma that causes long term damage and if parents became aware of the damage done before their children became teenagers or adults, then they can help their children express their true feelings of anger, fear and hurt, because the children are still emotionally dependent on their parents, but once the children become teenagers or adults the defense mechanisms and walls have been built and it’s out of the parents' hands, they can become the most conscious parents, but it will be too late, because they can’t force the teenagers and adult children remove the walls to face and feel their childhood repression, if they don’t wish to do so. To warn us, Alice Miller made herself very vulnerable to all the full-blown malignant narcissists, sociopaths, bad players, psychopaths, assholes, or whatever you like to call NOW these very evil people in the world -- her courage is astonishing!
And as Alice Miller wrote in the answers below to one of her readers:
"I am also glad that you have the hope that we can pass on our knowledge to the masses. I had this hope 30 years ago when I wrote the Drama. I thought that showing the truth can change so much. Meanwhile, I became more skeptical or just more impatient after I discovered the fear of the beaten child in all of us that built up the omnipresent resistance against the truth." Alice Miller
(Me too I had the hope with the writing of my book would help pass this knowledge to the masses, but like Alice Miller, I have become skeptical and with the writing of my book I too learned that people's repressed fears at their parents build omnipresent resistance against the truth. And people rather destroy others than face and consciously feel their own repressed fears to see the truth. And this is why I have been harassed, prosecuted, and ostracized since I can remember and in the workplace by very bad players since I published my book. I understand people's fears of their childhood pain that have been trying to keep repressed all of their lives, but it is still disappointing that pretty much everyone I meet doesn't have the courage to face their fears and become real)
Psychopaths/sociopaths always feed on people's weaknesses to advance themselves and don’t care who they hurt, step on and destroy in the process as long as they get what they want.
In the interview Martin Miller is giving in the link sent me, he is speaking in German and of course, I don’t understand what he is saying, but the body never lies and the language of the body is universal, his body is telling his truth and you can see how this man has been repressing all of his life with the aid of food and probably also with all kinds of medications, and never allowed himself to consciously feel the full range of the repressed feelings of the child he once was within the context of his own childhood.
And as long as we go on repressing our feelings the compulsion to abuse ourselves, others or both will go on endless overtly or covertly and you can see he has been abusing himself by overeating to numb his feelings when present situations trigger him because he is extremely overweight.
The title of his book is “The true drama of the gifted child- the tragedy of Alice Miller” but the title of his book should have been: “The Drama of the gifted child - the tragedy of my life” because his life is the real tragedy and sad beyond words, because he still stuck in his childhood and probably will never break free, because he is already 63 and the older we get hard it gets to resolve our repression.
Alice Miller’s life is not a tragedy, because she broke free and died free, the beginning of her life was a tragedy, but not the end of her life, she became honest with herself and others and that is the most important achievement anyone can reach in this lifetime, not like most people in our society that are stuck in their childhood pretending and acting as if personality their whole lives, fooling themselves and others.
As Alice says in her book The Body Never Lies, page, 86: ““… For how can I prove to someone that freedom is within reach if all his life he has clung to the constraints that were necessary for his survival and if he cannot imagine life without those constraints? I can say that I myself have achieved such freedom by getting to the bottom of my own story, but I have to admit that I am not a good example. After all, it took me over forty years to arrive at the stage I have reached now. But there are others. I know people who have succeeded in unearthing their memories in a much shorter space of time, and the discovery of their own truth has enabled them to emerge from the autistic hiding place that used to be their only refuge. In my case, the reason the journey took so long was that I was on my own for most of it.”
Me too, just like Alice Miller it took me over forty years to break free because I was alone in my journey most of it.
Also, read my blogs in the links below:
Letter to P About Martin Miller's book
The Pain of a Mother
In Most Cases is a Lie
Don’t let Others Exploit your Repressed Anger to do Harm
Psychoanalysis and most therapies hinder people’s liberation and autonomy
Open letter to Martin Miller
Letter to P About Martin Miller's book
The Pain of a Mother
In Most Cases is a Lie
Don’t let Others Exploit your Repressed Anger to do Harm
Psychoanalysis and most therapies hinder people’s liberation and autonomy
Open letter to Martin Miller
Monday, September 23, 2013
Very insightful and compassionate comments about Daniel Mackler’s critic of Alice Miller
“Reading through I wanted to add some ideas that I didn’t
see in other comments.
I mainly want to say that I think it’s totally reasonable of
Alice Miller to be unresponsive to your [Daniel Mackler’s] essay and even
dismissive.
Here is a woman who has spent much of her life swimming
upstream, going against the flow, fighting against the going paradigm.
Simultaneously, she is trying to heal her own wounds; she must feel awfully
vulnerable much of the time. So here she is trying to stand up to constant
criticism while at the same time carrying around all these unhealed wounds.
And here you come along and attack her, yet again. It’s true
that you also say how much you have learned from her, how influential she has
been for you. But your primary purpose with the essay seems to be to harp on
how she’s NOT PERFECT.
Sorry for the all caps shouting, but I want to make a point
that by writing your essay with this accusatory tone, you are practicing
exactly the same sort of critical, judgmental behavior that you say is so
damaging. Somehow you expect this wounded, damaged soul, Alice Miller, to be
immune to your criticism; for her not to be sensitive to your attacks.
In my experience, people go deaf when they feel attacked.
They don’t respond with an open-minded desire to learn. I imagine, given her
life history and the fact that her theories are probably subject to constant
criticism—at the same time that they are also praised by many—, she’s
sensitive. Who wouldn’t be?
If I were you, I’d go back and try to read your essay with a
mind to how it might feel to be Alice Miller and read your words.
Given the feelings that your essay might invoke in her,
imagine her trying to remain detached and un-triggered by old wounds. No matter
how successful you might be in remaining detached when people make comments,
this doesn’t mean she should be able to be equally detached. She’s under
constant fire, from all sides; she’s getting old, and probably worn out from
the battle. Despite all her efforts, and all her insights, she hasn’t been able
to truly get the healing she needs. She’s also a woman in a field where most of
the heavy hitters have been men. Getting recognition and not being heard as
“shrill” is a battle women have to face on top of everything else.
And you might think here about the fine line between
detachment and dissociation, which you’ve mentioned elsewhere on other topics.
I think there might be a little bit of a disconnect inside you about your
ability to remain “dispassionate” and take on criticism, and recognizing that
others (such as Alice Miller) may be still so painfully connected to the old
wounds that they cannot be dispassionate.
Can you cut her some slack? Not be so hard on her? She’s
done amazing things. No one is perfect. Life is a series of course corrections.
And perhaps you might even consider what parts of your own
unhealed wounds you are projecting onto her in your demands for perfection. Are
you insisting that she be the perfect mother you never had? I would perhaps
question your motives in writing your essay as a “critique,” rather than simply
saying “Here’s what I learned from Alice Miller’s amazing work. And here are
some ways that I think maybe we could go even further.”
Can you imagine writing what you did, extending her
theories, going beyond where she went without attacking her in the process? If
you were able to do this, I think she would feel validated, appreciated. You
would be building on what she did do, what she did accomplish, rather than
focusing on the areas where she was human and failed to be perfect.
If you choose to re-read your essay with an eye toward
greater compassion toward Alice Miller, you might notice that using “Limits” in
the title started off on the wrong foot to get her to listen to you with an
open mind. You might do some word counts to see how often you use language that
most people would perceive as critical if they were on the receiving end. Try
to put yourself in her shoes.
And I realize you didn’t write the essay as a direct letter
to her, and maybe never thought about whether she’d ever read it. You were
processing your own needs, which is cool.
I think it’d be an interesting, and revealing, exercise for
you to try to say what you think about her in a non-judgmental way.” Mimsy
“Daniel-
I enjoy most things you have to say and I am forever
grateful that I was sent to Alice Miller after watching your YouTube videos. I
do however find most of your great work to precisely that- Alice Millers. And
that parts where you disagree you seem to be making broad over-generalizations
and sticky conclusions.
The two reviews I have read on here also don't give any
substance to the books of which you reviewed- I think Cesar has a point. You
seem to use this discussion to attack Miller, and not the points made in the
book. You seem to be making a review on her integrity.
I also am unsure how you determine that you are completely
enlightened. How can you know you are not making the same "hubris"
assumption as Miller? Can anyone be fully enlightened? How can one determine
when they are fully enlightened? And if you aren't enlightened, then by your
own words aren't you abusing your readers? And you abused your past patients
before your enlightenment?
As for the fact that Alice Miller has disclosed
her whole life makes her easy to attack from someone that hasn't to near the
extent. Also your attacks on procreation and whether or not parents can have
children is rather mute, considering you don't plan to have any and your stance
on homosexuality.” Mark Twain
Friday, September 20, 2013
Honest comments about Daniel Mackler’s critic of Alice Miller
“Rhetoric without a
purpose. Alice Miler's books exposed the psychoanalytic bias against taking
adult or children’s' stories of early life abuse literally and as real history,
and the pervasive and very traumatic child rearing practices of a culture
dominated by the "Proverbs" mentality, "if you beat him with a
rod, he will not die." This mentality reigns supreme even today. Anyone
who has read even a few of Dr. Miller's books will know why these works are
hated and a target of disinformation by the adherents of "children as
property" and "children as sinners" ideology (or theology).
Alice Miller learning from her child is no different than a therapist learning
from their patient. It is not unethical or immoral, but the way an aware and
sensitive person grows. I really can't understand Mackler's reasoning or even
the factual basis for any of this depiction of Alice Miller and I hope it will
in no way discourage anyone from reading as many of Dr. Miller's books they can
find. She is on the right side of parental pedagogy for all time and most
therapists consider her the guiding light in understanding violence against
children and the adult residuals of parental narcissism and sadism.” Z. St.
John
“I am a mother and a neglected child. In the course of time, I realized many
situations I would have liked to do more to protect my children but often the damage
is already done as many parents are unaware or the circumstances presented us
with different priorities which often the children succumbed together with the
parents. Alice Miller confirmed to me
the dynamic of how child abuse in it multifaceted forms is perpetuated, she too
learned her lesson which led to the insight she so capably was able to
communicate to the world through her books.
The lesson is reflected in those very words the article quotes and I
repeated it below:
The spontaneity with which my daughter expressed her
childlike, innocent, affectionate nature at whatever age she happened to be,
and her sensitivity to insincerity and disingenuousness in whatever form, gave
my life new dimensions and new objectives. [Breaking Down the Wall of Silence,
1996 revised edition, p. xiii]
I believe the above was not a need for Dr. Miller to justify
her 'blind spots' for not for having protected her daughter or even being the
cause unswervingly for that matter, but instead I see the above statement as an
act of generosity in sharing with the world her own family story which
certainly gave the insight particularly on the subtleties of abuse hidden
cultural practices.
Those that have benefitted from her insight and all we can
do is make our contributions to her work for the good of humanity. I am
skeptical on criticisms that tend to destroy or create doubt on such monumental
insights as Alice Miller and others are doing.
I could more for my own children, but I had reached a good
level of awareness and important priorities for survival prevented me from
doing more. My own children may not have
serious problems thanks to the awareness I had reached at a certain point of
their development.
Thank you for your attention and hope the above contributes
to further reflection.” Marcella
New poster here.
Reading through I wanted to add some ideas that I didn’t see in other comments.
I mainly want to say that I think it’s totally reasonable of Alice Miller to be unresponsive to your [Daniel Mackler’s] essay and even dismissive.
Here is a woman who has spent much of her life swimming upstream, going against the flow, fighting against the going paradigm. Simultaneously, she is trying to heal her own wounds; she must feel awfully vulnerable much of the time. So here she is trying to stand up to constant criticism while at the same time carrying around all these unhealed wounds.
And here you come along and attack her, yet again. It’s true that you also say how much you have learned from her, how influential she has been for you. But your primary purpose with the essay seems to be to harp on how she’s NOT PERFECT.
Sorry for the all caps shouting, but I want to make a point that by writing your essay with this accusatory tone, you are practicing exactly the same sort of critical, judgmental behavior that you say is so damaging. Somehow you expect this wounded, damaged soul, Alice Miller, to be immune to your criticism; for her not to be sensitive to your attacks.
In my experience, people go deaf when they feel attacked. They don’t respond with an open-minded desire to learn. I imagine, given her life history and the fact that her theories are probably subject to constant criticism—at the same time that they are also praised by many—, she’s sensitive. Who wouldn’t be?
If I were you, I’d go back and try to read your essay with a mind to how it might feel to be Alice Miller and read your words.
Given the feelings that your essay might invoke in her, imagine her trying to remain detached and un-triggered by old wounds. No matter how successful you might be in remaining detached when people make comments, this doesn’t mean she should be able to be equally detached. She’s under constant fire, from all sides; she’s getting old, and probably worn out from the battle. Despite all her efforts, and all her insights, she hasn’t been able to truly get the healing she needs. She’s also a woman in a field where most of the heavy hitters have been men. Getting recognition and not being heard as “shrill” is a battle women have to face on top of everything else.
And you might think here about the fine line between detachment and dissociation, which you’ve mentioned elsewhere on other topics. I think there might be a little bit of a disconnect inside you about your ability to remain “dispassionate” and take on criticism, and recognizing that others (such as Alice Miller) maybe still so painfully connected to the old wounds that they cannot be dispassionate.
Can you cut her some slack? Not be so hard on her? She’s done amazing things. No one is perfect. Life is a series of course corrections.
And perhaps you might even consider what parts of your own unhealed wounds you are projecting onto her in your demands for perfection. Are you insisting that she be the perfect mother you never had? I would perhaps question your motives in writing your essay as a “critique,” rather than simply saying “Here’s what I learned from Alice Miller’s amazing work. And here are some ways that I think maybe we could go even further.”
Can you imagine writing what you did, extending her theories, going beyond where she went without attacking her in the process? If you were able to do this, I think she would feel validated, appreciated. You would be building on what she did do, what she did accomplish, rather than focusing on the areas where she was human and failed to be perfect.
If you choose to re-read your essay with an eye toward greater compassion toward Alice Miller, you might notice that using “Limits” in the title started off on the wrong foot to get her to listen to you with an open mind. You might do some word counts to see how often you use language that most people would perceive as critical if they were on the receiving end. Try to put yourself in her shoes.
And I realize you didn’t write the essay as a direct letter to her, and maybe never thought about whether she’d ever read it. You were processing your own needs, which is cool.
I think it’d be an interesting, and revealing, exercise for you to try to say what you think about her in a non-judgmental way.
Mimsy
Reading through I wanted to add some ideas that I didn’t see in other comments.
I mainly want to say that I think it’s totally reasonable of Alice Miller to be unresponsive to your [Daniel Mackler’s] essay and even dismissive.
Here is a woman who has spent much of her life swimming upstream, going against the flow, fighting against the going paradigm. Simultaneously, she is trying to heal her own wounds; she must feel awfully vulnerable much of the time. So here she is trying to stand up to constant criticism while at the same time carrying around all these unhealed wounds.
And here you come along and attack her, yet again. It’s true that you also say how much you have learned from her, how influential she has been for you. But your primary purpose with the essay seems to be to harp on how she’s NOT PERFECT.
Sorry for the all caps shouting, but I want to make a point that by writing your essay with this accusatory tone, you are practicing exactly the same sort of critical, judgmental behavior that you say is so damaging. Somehow you expect this wounded, damaged soul, Alice Miller, to be immune to your criticism; for her not to be sensitive to your attacks.
In my experience, people go deaf when they feel attacked. They don’t respond with an open-minded desire to learn. I imagine, given her life history and the fact that her theories are probably subject to constant criticism—at the same time that they are also praised by many—, she’s sensitive. Who wouldn’t be?
If I were you, I’d go back and try to read your essay with a mind to how it might feel to be Alice Miller and read your words.
Given the feelings that your essay might invoke in her, imagine her trying to remain detached and un-triggered by old wounds. No matter how successful you might be in remaining detached when people make comments, this doesn’t mean she should be able to be equally detached. She’s under constant fire, from all sides; she’s getting old, and probably worn out from the battle. Despite all her efforts, and all her insights, she hasn’t been able to truly get the healing she needs. She’s also a woman in a field where most of the heavy hitters have been men. Getting recognition and not being heard as “shrill” is a battle women have to face on top of everything else.
And you might think here about the fine line between detachment and dissociation, which you’ve mentioned elsewhere on other topics. I think there might be a little bit of a disconnect inside you about your ability to remain “dispassionate” and take on criticism, and recognizing that others (such as Alice Miller) maybe still so painfully connected to the old wounds that they cannot be dispassionate.
Can you cut her some slack? Not be so hard on her? She’s done amazing things. No one is perfect. Life is a series of course corrections.
And perhaps you might even consider what parts of your own unhealed wounds you are projecting onto her in your demands for perfection. Are you insisting that she be the perfect mother you never had? I would perhaps question your motives in writing your essay as a “critique,” rather than simply saying “Here’s what I learned from Alice Miller’s amazing work. And here are some ways that I think maybe we could go even further.”
Can you imagine writing what you did, extending her theories, going beyond where she went without attacking her in the process? If you were able to do this, I think she would feel validated, appreciated. You would be building on what she did do, what she did accomplish, rather than focusing on the areas where she was human and failed to be perfect.
If you choose to re-read your essay with an eye toward greater compassion toward Alice Miller, you might notice that using “Limits” in the title started off on the wrong foot to get her to listen to you with an open mind. You might do some word counts to see how often you use language that most people would perceive as critical if they were on the receiving end. Try to put yourself in her shoes.
And I realize you didn’t write the essay as a direct letter to her, and maybe never thought about whether she’d ever read it. You were processing your own needs, which is cool.
I think it’d be an interesting, and revealing, exercise for you to try to say what you think about her in a non-judgmental way.
Mimsy
My Letter to P about Martin Miller’s book
Hi P,
Have you seen this? It’s in German! You don’t have to use
google translate like I had to, I am jealous you can read German, because you
lose a lot in translation, but I think it was enough for me to see where Martin
Miller comes from. I guess Martin Miller
has finished his book! I feel so sad that this 63-year-old man is still stuck in
his childhood and never found his own way in the world and got trapped in the
labyrinth of psychoanalysis.
It took his mother most of her adult life to free
herself from the labyrinth of psychoanalysis. Just like his mother wrote below.
With his book, he is transferring his childhood confusion into many people that
still, like him, are stuck in the confusion of their own childhood and they
too, like him, have fell victims to the labyrinth or traps of many seductive
therapies that keep them stuck endless reenacting their own childhood dramas,
where they either play the active role of mother/father to others or are
endless stuck in the role of the child.
“, is not an accusation. But an attempt to understand
deep-seated trauma.” I have learned that when people deny something that’s
exactly what they are. The fact he is saying is not an accusation that’s
exactly what it is, disguised as wanting to understand deep-seated trauma. Anyone
that has read all his mother’s books and worked through their own repression
understands deep-seated trauma and how hard it is to resolve it.
He is being a
great example of how difficult it is to resolve deep-seated trauma. He is still
stuck in his childhood fighting and competing with his mother to make a name
for himself by unconsciously attempting to destroy the great discovers and
accomplishments his mother made late in life by stepping on his mother’s head
to satisfy his own childhood narcissists needs and letting the unresolved
repressed emotions of the child he once was, to take revenge on his mother for the
wrongs she did to him when he was a small child by attempting to kill his
mother in a symbolic way in the public arena with his book, creating a smoke
screen confusing many people already confused looking for a way out of their
own labyrinths.
Also, read my blogs in the links below:
The Courage of Alice Miller Was Astonishing
Then Pain of a Mother
In Most Cases is a Lie
Don’t let Others Exploit your Repressed Anger to do Harm
He mentions that his mother’s first three books are the most
valuable, of course, he likes his mother’s first books, because when his mother
wrote her first books, she had not broken free completely from the labyrinth of psychoanalysis, a labyrinth he still trapped in. In Alice’s first books she was
still writing with the precepts of the labyrinth of psychoanalysis and still
had hopes or the illusion psychoanalysis could help people break free. His
mother’s last books are much clear and are the books that helped me understand
and feel my own feelings within the context of my own childhood and finally
break free from my emotional prison no longer be lost in projections reenacting
my childhood drama with people symbolizing my parents or my parents
substitutes, in my own case my older sisters, and prevented me from being
trapped in the labyrinth of many seductive therapies out there.
As Alice Miller said: “…On the other hand, what has
radically changed is my hopeful attitude towards psychoanalysis, from which, in
1988, I officially broke away by resigning from the Swiss as well as the
International Psychoanalytical Association. I was forced to take this step when
I realized that psychoanalytical theory and practice obscure—i.e., render
unrecognizable—the cause and consequences of child abuse, by (among other
things) labeling facts as fantasies, and furthermore, that such treatments can
be dangerous, as in my own case, [and obviously in the case of her own son]
because they cement the confusion deriving from childhood instead of resolving
it. Ten years ago I was not yet so clear about this, my study of philosophy as
well as my training in and practice of psychoanalysis having long prevented me
from recognizing many facts. Only when I was prepared to end my repression, to
liberate my childhood from the prison of pedagogic notions and psychoanalytical
theories; when I reject the ideology of forgetting and forgiving, allied myself
with the abused child, and, thanks to my therapy, learned to feel: only then
did I gradually discover my hitherto concealed history.” From the book Banished
Knowledge, from the edition 1990, vintage point
“This book [the
drama] was written sixteen years ago in keeping with the precepts of psychoanalysis,
precepts that I have long since moved beyond and today regard as misleading. I, therefore, have had to revise the text thoroughly, salvaging those parts I still
regard as valid and useful while clarifying certain points more than I was able
to in 1978” From the Drama of the Gifted Child, edition 1994, introduction,
page,1Also, read my blogs in the links below:
The Courage of Alice Miller Was Astonishing
Then Pain of a Mother
In Most Cases is a Lie
Don’t let Others Exploit your Repressed Anger to do Harm
Saturday, August 31, 2013
Miley Cyrus is giving the world the middle finger
I thought I would share
here some comments I made on someone's Facebook status about the Miley Cyrus saga.
She is 20 years old and lost like most people in the rest of the world. Let’s not demand more from a 20-year-old than we do from the rest of the world. They are a lot of people and a lot older with that same or even bigger platform masquerading as responsible, loving caring people making millions of dollars selling the same old recycled seductive lies and half-truths that do a lot more harm under the disguise of help. They are nothing but cult leaders promoting others cult leaders misleading and deceiving the public, like for example, a lady whose name starts with an O. I don’t want to say her name, because right now I don’t want to deal with the backlash because sadly most people are just like little children that cannot bear the truth about their parents and will defend and attack anyone that dears to expose the big lies or illusions of people standing in symbolizing their mother/father. At least Miley Cyrus is not deceiving anyone! She was just acting silly and using her sexuality to get attention and make money!
That was my thought too. If it was a guy sticking the tongue out and grabbing his crotch in a disgusting way no one would care. This gender bias in our society has always pissed me off since I was a little girl. And the truth be told. She was exploited as a child and taught that money and fame was the most important thing in life. Every artist is trying to communicate something in a symbolic way and if we judge the artist and his/her art form instead of trying to understand its language, we miss the message. What I see from her performance is that she is disgusted and pissed off. Her anger is justified because she has been exploited by everyone in her life since she was born and now as an adult, she is grabbing herself in a disgusting way and sticking her tongue out at the world and she really saying: Fxxx you all! She is stuck in a time capsule like the rest of the world and the only difference between her and the rest of the world is that she is in a time capsule with a lot of more money! But at least she is not deceiving anyone like most people in our society in power positions pretending to have it all together behind a pretty façade fooling everyone and blocking the truth that could save the world, so they don’t have to face and feel their own painful truths. I hope Miley finds true freedom from her time capsule before she dies. Madonna use to bug me a lot more with her every calculated move, but her just like Miley is stuck in a time capsule and I don’t think Madonna will ever find true freedom before she dies. This quote by Alice Miller comes to mind: “It is not true that evil, destructiveness, and perversion inevitably form part of human existence, no matter how often this is maintained. But it is true that we are daily producing more evil and, with it, an ocean of suffering for millions that is absolutely avoidable. When one day the ignorance arising from childhood repression is eliminated and humanity has awakened, an end can be put to the production of evil.” — Alice Miller, Banished Knowledge, p. 141
You see their plan worked beautifully! They wanted to make money and they did it! They all are giving the hypocrites of world the middle finger! :-) "Despite the scorn earned by her performance of “Blurred Lines,” Cyrus has since sold 90,000 digital downloads of her new track “Wrecking Ball BLL -0.87%,” which debuted the day of the VMAs. The song now sits at No. 13 on Billboard‘s digital songs chart. The impact has been even broader in social media. According to data outfit MusicMetric, the former Hannah Montana star has seen a 112% rise in activity over the week before, adding 226,273 new Facebook FB +0.06% fans and 213,104 new Twitter followers from August 24 to August 28.
Her manager reportedly summed up her VMA performance quite simply: “It could not have gone better.”"http://www.forbes.com/sites/ zackomalleygreenburg/2013/08/ 30/miley-cyrus-and-the-vma- aftermath-the-latest-numbers/
Lady Gaga has to be really pissed! I heard she was almost naked on stage! But I don’t see any videos of her anywhere! She probably said to herself: damn it I got naked for nothing! :-)
Miley whatever you do in the future just don’t go sit on Oprah’s couch! Please don’t let that woman exploit you like everyone else!
Also, this quote by Alice Miller just came to mind:
She is 20 years old and lost like most people in the rest of the world. Let’s not demand more from a 20-year-old than we do from the rest of the world. They are a lot of people and a lot older with that same or even bigger platform masquerading as responsible, loving caring people making millions of dollars selling the same old recycled seductive lies and half-truths that do a lot more harm under the disguise of help. They are nothing but cult leaders promoting others cult leaders misleading and deceiving the public, like for example, a lady whose name starts with an O. I don’t want to say her name, because right now I don’t want to deal with the backlash because sadly most people are just like little children that cannot bear the truth about their parents and will defend and attack anyone that dears to expose the big lies or illusions of people standing in symbolizing their mother/father. At least Miley Cyrus is not deceiving anyone! She was just acting silly and using her sexuality to get attention and make money!
That was my thought too. If it was a guy sticking the tongue out and grabbing his crotch in a disgusting way no one would care. This gender bias in our society has always pissed me off since I was a little girl. And the truth be told. She was exploited as a child and taught that money and fame was the most important thing in life. Every artist is trying to communicate something in a symbolic way and if we judge the artist and his/her art form instead of trying to understand its language, we miss the message. What I see from her performance is that she is disgusted and pissed off. Her anger is justified because she has been exploited by everyone in her life since she was born and now as an adult, she is grabbing herself in a disgusting way and sticking her tongue out at the world and she really saying: Fxxx you all! She is stuck in a time capsule like the rest of the world and the only difference between her and the rest of the world is that she is in a time capsule with a lot of more money! But at least she is not deceiving anyone like most people in our society in power positions pretending to have it all together behind a pretty façade fooling everyone and blocking the truth that could save the world, so they don’t have to face and feel their own painful truths. I hope Miley finds true freedom from her time capsule before she dies. Madonna use to bug me a lot more with her every calculated move, but her just like Miley is stuck in a time capsule and I don’t think Madonna will ever find true freedom before she dies. This quote by Alice Miller comes to mind: “It is not true that evil, destructiveness, and perversion inevitably form part of human existence, no matter how often this is maintained. But it is true that we are daily producing more evil and, with it, an ocean of suffering for millions that is absolutely avoidable. When one day the ignorance arising from childhood repression is eliminated and humanity has awakened, an end can be put to the production of evil.” — Alice Miller, Banished Knowledge, p. 141
You see their plan worked beautifully! They wanted to make money and they did it! They all are giving the hypocrites of world the middle finger! :-) "Despite the scorn earned by her performance of “Blurred Lines,” Cyrus has since sold 90,000 digital downloads of her new track “Wrecking Ball BLL -0.87%,” which debuted the day of the VMAs. The song now sits at No. 13 on Billboard‘s digital songs chart. The impact has been even broader in social media. According to data outfit MusicMetric, the former Hannah Montana star has seen a 112% rise in activity over the week before, adding 226,273 new Facebook FB +0.06% fans and 213,104 new Twitter followers from August 24 to August 28.
Her manager reportedly summed up her VMA performance quite simply: “It could not have gone better.”"http://www.forbes.com/sites/
By the way, I never heard the word twerking before and I didn't know its meaning until now! J
According to Quartz, the word "twerk" has even been added to the Oxford Dictionaries Online. "Twerk" has been defined as "a dance to popular music in a sexually provocative manner involving thrusting hip movements and a low, squatting stance."
According to Quartz, the word "twerk" has even been added to the Oxford Dictionaries Online. "Twerk" has been defined as "a dance to popular music in a sexually provocative manner involving thrusting hip movements and a low, squatting stance."
Lady Gaga has to be really pissed! I heard she was almost naked on stage! But I don’t see any videos of her anywhere! She probably said to herself: damn it I got naked for nothing! :-)
Miley whatever you do in the future just don’t go sit on Oprah’s couch! Please don’t let that woman exploit you like everyone else!
Also, this quote by Alice Miller just came to mind:
"The tragedy is that of early psychic injuries and their inevitable repression, which allows the child to survive. In a broad sense, it is the tragedy of almost everyone: As children we strive, above all else, to accommodate our parents' demands - spoken and unspoken, reasonable and unreasonable. In the process, we blind ourselves to our true needs and feelings. In our adult lives, this is like trying to sail a ship without a compass. Not knowing who we are, what we feel, and what we need, even as grown-ups we remain subject to the expectations placed upon us from the very beginning of our lives, expectations we fulfilled not for love but for the illusion of love. Without that illusion, we could not have survived childhood." Read more in the link below:
http://sylvieshene.blogspot.com/2012/08/introduction-to-revised-edition-1995.html
Some people can't let go of Miley Cyrus and someone posted a video of this hypocritical woman projecting her shame on Miley. Here are my comments on that video.
Below is my comment to the open letter of Sinead O'Connor to Miley Cyrus:
Why can’t people let go of Miley Cyrus. Sinead O'Connor suffers from what I like to call the prodigal son syndrome, she used to be a rebel, but came a day when she could no longer cope alone with her painful emotions and turned to religion for help, didn’t she even became a priest herself?! Religion/god is the substitute parent figure and remains a child stuck in her childhood drama that never broke free and now she is slut shaming other young people like once she was shamed. The compulsion to do to others what once was done to us is very hard to stop. She is shaming Miley Cyrus under the disguise of wanting to help. It is exactly what happened to her when she was a young girl. She is reenacting unconsciously and compulsively her childhood drama, but now she is the one doing the shaming instead of being shamed, she just reversed the roles, that’s all.
Good comments on my Facebook post below:
https://www.facebook.com/sylne/posts/10151747241058922?comment_id=27104709
http://sylvieshene.blogspot.com/2012/08/introduction-to-revised-edition-1995.html
Some people can't let go of Miley Cyrus and someone posted a video of this hypocritical woman projecting her shame on Miley. Here are my comments on that video.
She is so annoying and no way I can't get through the whole video! I rather have Miley Cyrus any day, has a much more pleasant voice to listen to and is much sexier! I wish people stopped the judging and the slut shaming already.
I feel sorry for her kids to be raised by such a self-righteous and judgmental mother.
Actually, she doesn’t. The internet allows everyone to show their faces, their emotional insights as well as their emotional blindness. Miley is being more emotionally honest unlike the girl in the video that is being emotionally dishonest and with the aid of hypocrisy covertly is passing or transferring her unresolved repressed shame from her own childhood into her children and Miley made herself vulnerable for the collective repressed shame of society to be transferred into her. She seems to be a pretty mature girl having fun and enjoying her sexuality and doesn’t care what anyone thinks, because if she takes in society’s collective repressed shame it will destroy her.
Below is my comment to the open letter of Sinead O'Connor to Miley Cyrus:
Why can’t people let go of Miley Cyrus. Sinead O'Connor suffers from what I like to call the prodigal son syndrome, she used to be a rebel, but came a day when she could no longer cope alone with her painful emotions and turned to religion for help, didn’t she even became a priest herself?! Religion/god is the substitute parent figure and remains a child stuck in her childhood drama that never broke free and now she is slut shaming other young people like once she was shamed. The compulsion to do to others what once was done to us is very hard to stop. She is shaming Miley Cyrus under the disguise of wanting to help. It is exactly what happened to her when she was a young girl. She is reenacting unconsciously and compulsively her childhood drama, but now she is the one doing the shaming instead of being shamed, she just reversed the roles, that’s all.
Good comments on my Facebook post below:
https://www.facebook.com/sylne/posts/10151747241058922?comment_id=27104709
We can do what the fxxx we want and enjoy doing as long it doesn’t hurt ourselves and others, AND we are not doing it to run away from our painful truths and from feeling our painful feelings/soul, our true feelings are our soul, so if you can’t feel and go on repressing your authentic feelings with the aid of money, religion, drugs, medication, alcohol, sex, relationships, yoga or whatever illusion your head creates to distract yourself from your authentic feelings, you are repressing your soul and therefore living without a soul acting as if personality deceiving yourself and others. Just like the German-Swiss alchemist and physician Paracelsus established some 500 years ago, "Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy." And as Alice miller says: “There are plenty of means to combat symptoms of distress: medications, sermons, numerous ‘treatments,’ ‘miracles,’ threats, cults, pedagogical indoctrination, and even blackmail, they can all work for a while, but only because they reinforce the repression and reinforce the fear of resolving it. … A lot of money and fame comes from this business of repression because it satisfies the longing of so many grown-up children: to be loved as a good child. … In the long term, we have to pay a high price for this repression.” Breaking Down the Wall of Silence, page 126
I wish people stayed out of other people sexuality, teenagers, or not teenagers, just give young people the facts how their body works and how to protect themselves and respect everyone’s choices of when, how and with whom they choose to express themselves sexually! As long they are equal partners, other people's sexuality is nobody’s business. Not having sexual education based on facts and reality is in itself sexual abuse.
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